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Narnia books without the Pevensie kids. Too risky to film?

I saw it on Tuesday evening with friends (going again with my brother still as planned on Saturday night still) and found that I enjoyed it immensely. Thought it was actually slightly better than "Prince Caspian".
I enjoyed it a lot more than Prince Caspian, in which it felt to me at least as though they tried to turn a smallish story into something worthy of a feature film by adding so many battle sequences that they soon became tedious. With Dawn Treader, the filmmakers had a much more interesting book with which to work, and it helped immensely.
 
Keep in mind, however, that Puddleglum -- one of the main characters -- is a lanky, Gollum-esque creature who would probably need to be realized entirely through CGI. And he's basically "on-screen" in the book for, like, 90% of the time.
You could do Puddleglum as an actor in practical makeup. Something along the lines of Abe Sapien in Hellboy.
 
It's been a long time since I read the books, but I seem to recall Puddleglum being described (and illustrated in the copy I have) as being greenish, very thin and quite a bit taller than either of the kids. Definitely not a dwarf.


Ahh, you're right. I had forgotten that he was tall. I was only remembering his dwarf-like features. In that case, they could maybe cast a basketball player :lol:
 
It's been a while since I read the books, but I think I always envisioned him built like a frog. Long skinny legs and a bulbous short torso.
 
I saw Dawn Treader this evening.

I enjoyed it. I might even venture that I enjoyed it more than a little. The nature of the source material let Dawn Treader be its own thing, rather than the Lord of the Rings-lite that the previous two films tried to be. The story did feel a bit slight, but that's an artifact of the books. The ending, on the shores of Aslan's Country, was moving; I'll even admit to shedding a few tears.

To answer the question posed at the start of this thread, I think the film series could carry on, easily, with Eustace; Will Poulter was certainly compelling and charismatic enough. However, the ending also brings a certain amount of closure (since Lucy and Edmund are now cut off from Narnia), and if there's not a Silver Chair, the series will feel somewhat complete.
 
The studio estimate for Dawn Treader's second weekend is $12.4 million, bringing it to a total of $42.8 million domestic. If that estimate is correct it'll be a 48% drop from the first weekend, so that gives us enough data to know that Dawn Treader at least isn't on track to have the kind of disastrous domestic legs that The Golden Compass had (TGC dropped 65.8% in its second weekend, leading to a domestic gross of just $70.1 million).

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe dropped 51.4% in its second weekend and ended up grossing 4.45X its opening. If Dawn Treader ends up with about the same multiplier it'll end up with a domestic gross of around $107 million.
 
After seeing the movie again last night I have to say that I'm at least chomping at the bit to see this franchise continue. You did get the sense though that it was nicely wrapped or could continue. I loved Eustace's mom saying that Jill was waiting down stairs for him. The box office has been terrible for the film so far though which is my only worry. It was pushed to the small theater in the complex already which is a scary thought since that doesn't normally happen for a few weeks. The theater was about two thirds full.
 
The studio estimate for Dawn Treader's second weekend is $12.4 million, bringing it to a total of $42.8 million domestic. If that estimate is correct it'll be a 48% drop from the first weekend, so that gives us enough data to know that Dawn Treader at least isn't on track to have the kind of disastrous domestic legs that The Golden Compass had (TGC dropped 65.8% in its second weekend, leading to a domestic gross of just $70.1 million).
That's nice to know. Perhaps word-of-mouth is helping a little.
 
Domestic box office is going to be disappointing. It's a question of how disappointing and whether foreign box office and DVD/Blu-ray revenue are strong enough to thread the needle and get a further sequel at a lower budget. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet that it's the end of the franchise, but it's not quite a 100% certainty at this stage.
 
Domestic box office is going to be disappointing. It's a question of how disappointing and whether foreign box office and DVD/Blu-ray revenue are strong enough to thread the needle and get a further sequel at a lower budget. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet that it's the end of the franchise, but it's not quite a 100% certainty at this stage.
This morning, while writing a review of the film for my blog, I came across an interesting mention of the film's producers and how they now want to adapt all seven books. (It's a single line, in this Reuters article.) If the worldwide grosses reach Caspian levels, with a modest budget The Silver Chair should be feasible, but I don't know if doing four more films would be viable.

I still think that next weekend will be a big weekend for it...although maybe not much more of a spike.
And i still think you are nuts. ;)
Christmas is typically a strong day for movie-going. Dawn Treader will still have some drop-off next weekend, but with more patrons going to the theaters, it can only benefit with a less-than-expected drop-off. "A rising tide raises all boats," after all. :)
 
They'd have a couple of options as to how to proceed if the worldwide box office is strong enough. They could make The Silver Chair (the most obvious option given that it centers on Eustace) if they think they could bring it in on a budget similar to Fox's Percy Jackson ($95 million), or they could make The Magician's Nephew and sell it as a prequel featuring Jadis. The Magician's Nephew could probably be made at a greatly reduced budget - more so than The Silver Chair.
 
A friend of mine thinks they'll stay away from making "The Magician's Nephew" because of the obvious Christian creation overtones the book has. I think I agree with him to a small degree. It's the film I want most adapted now. If they don't decide on filming "The Silver Chair" next.
 
A friend of mine thinks they'll stay away from making "The Magician's Nephew" because of the obvious Christian creation overtones the book has.
They were perfectly happy to emphasize the crucifixion and resurrection aspects of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and had a concerted outreach effort to market the film to Christians. I don't think they'd be scared off by that element in regard to The Magician's Nephew. It's The Last Battle that I can't see them making (even if the box office allowed the series to continue).
 
Is this the de facto thread for DawnTreader? I don't see a grading/review thread.

I saw it yesterday at a 2:10pm matinee and was pleasantly surprised to see the 300 seat room 80% full. I was even more pleased when at the conclusion of the film I could say confidently it was a good movie(which I didn't think of Caspian).

I really hope this movie finds some Holiday legs over the next 2 weeks. Fox mismanaged the marketing of this movie I believe. It's not doing so hot in the North American market but hopefully the WOM is good. An office worker of mine says her family always saves up. Over Christmas weekend they are going to see the newest Potter and VODT. Maybe Narnia 3 will find a significant amount of people doing likewise.

I've never read The Silver Chair but Eustace grew on me over the course of the movie. It would be intersting to see him as the lead with a non-Pevensie(blood relation) in tow into the world of Narnia.

I give Voyage of the Dawn Treader a solid: B+
 
Tron only opened in 26 territories, though, while Dawn Treader is showing in 61 territories. Still it's good to see Dawn Treader continuing to have a good international run. It's now up to $166.4 million worldwide, 74.3% of which comes from international markets. $380-400 million would generally be the target in worldwide box office for a $155 million film, so we'll see how close it gets to that.
 
I didn't see a Dawn Treader discussion thread either. It seems to be under the radar this year compared to the previous two movies. As I pointed out in my post earlier I ended up absolutely loving it and it is one of my favorite movies of the year. Also was close to becoming my favorite of the three films. It had been a while since I read the books so I had to ask my brother about all the changes and differences which he was happy to oblige me with. I too think "The Silver Chair" will be an interesting film to make with Eustace and Jill as the two new leads. It will no doubt be risky but then this film seems to be a risky film to make too. I thought Georgie and Skandar were amazing in this film, especially Georgie. If she can escape the Narnia typecasting I think she has a bright future ahead of her.
 
For the sake of comparison here's how this year's other big fantasy films that have completed their box office runs fared (the percentage in brackets is how much of the worldwide box office came from international markets):

Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief - $226.4 million worldwide (60.8%) on a $95 million budget.

Alice in Wonderland - $1.024 billion (67.4%) on a $200 million budget.

Clash of the Titans - $493.2 million (66.9%) on a $125 million budget.

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - $335.1 million (72.9%) on a $200 million budget.

The Twilight Saga: Eclipse - $693.4 million (56.7%) on a $68 million budget.

The Last Airbender - $318.9 million (58.7%) on a $150 million budget.

The Sorcerer's Apprentice - $215.2 million (70.7%) on a $150 million budget.
 
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