Either the Normandy (too much playing a certain computer game) or Agincourt
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My understanding is that Otto von Bismarck was actually a pretty decent guy as far as statesmen and politicians go. The fact that the Germans happened to have a ship named after him during the Nazi rule is no reflection on him, any more than it would be a reflection on John F. Kennedy if fascists came to power in the U.S. and continued to use his name on CV-67.Could you have a USS Bismarck.
^That's true, although his actions were an important cause of the two wars Prussia fought to see through the dream of German unification. Then again, JFK is in part responsible for the American involvement in Vietnam, widely regarded as a mistake today.
What about Bismarck's sister Tirpitz? All her namesake did was oversee the arms race between Britain and Germany that (in small part) helped lead to WWI and act as a vocal proponent of unrestricted submarine warfare, but he appeared to be a fundamentally okay guy, and definitely so by the standards of his time--he just wanted to protect his country and win the war. Decent memoir writer, as well.
But how must the denizens of the 24th century see either? Or John F. Kennedy, for that matter?
It's funny, we don't see any names from either the Kaiserliche Marine, the Deutsche Kriegsmarine, or the modern Deutsche Marine, but we see lots of names from the Royal Navy and Imperial Japanese Navy names (or for that matter USN names)--all of which enforced policies surely as at odds to the far more enlightened Starfleet ethos. It's kind of strange that the UFP Starfleet decided to memorialize what to them must be the instrumentality of imperialism, militarism, and ultimately much human suffering. How many people starved on account of the Royal Navy's existence in World War I? How many died on account of the Imperial Japanese Navy's ability to transport troops in World War II? How many people were hurt by the names Bellerophon and Yamato?
I guess the idea is that all such divisions have been reconciled within United Earth and later the United Federation of Planets, but it's almost like the USN naming our newest CV the U.S.S. Jefferson Davis.
What about Bismarck's sister Tirpitz? All her namesake did was oversee the arms race between Britain and Germany that (in small part) helped lead to WWI and act as a vocal proponent of unrestricted submarine warfare, but he appeared to be a fundamentally okay guy, and definitely so by the standards of his time--he just wanted to protect his country and win the war. Decent memoir writer, as well.
But how must the denizens of the 24th century see either? Or John F. Kennedy, for that matter?
It's funny, we don't see any names from either the Kaiserliche Marine, the Deutsche Kriegsmarine, or the modern Deutsche Marine, but we see lots of names from the Royal Navy and Imperial Japanese Navy names (or for that matter USN names)--all of which enforced policies surely as at odds to the far more enlightened Starfleet ethos. It's kind of strange that the UFP Starfleet decided to memorialize what to them must be the instrumentality of imperialism, militarism, and ultimately much human suffering. How many people starved on account of the Royal Navy's existence in World War I? How many died on account of the Imperial Japanese Navy's ability to transport troops in World War II? How many people were hurt by the names Bellerophon and Yamato?
I guess the idea is that all such divisions have been reconciled within United Earth and later the United Federation of Planets, but it's almost like the USN naming our newest CV the U.S.S. Jefferson Davis.
Maybe it's more about the traditions of the ships themselves than the actual governments they came from?
lol i don't know. wherever it is it's not good enough lol. i want a romulan design (because they make them "bird-like") and since it is experimental, it does use some borg tech. and yes, with the destruction of their world(s), some romulans should join starfleet.
USS Starhawk (anyone else remember that really old video game? 
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Vulcan: VSS T'Exeira
Oh, what the hell, why not run with that:
USS Jeter
USS Ripken
USS Swisher
USS Damon
)Vulcan: VSS T'Exeira
Oh, what the hell, why not run with that:
USS Jeter
USS Ripken
USS Swisher
USS Damon
IIRC, USS Bismarck is one of the names assigned to a Sovereign class in Birth of the Federation.Could you have a USS Bismarck.
I'd have USS Bones.
Did he had a really big nacelle?
USS Stephen Gregory Yzerman.
....because a player that awesome gets his own ship.
....because a player that awesome gets his own ship.
USS Freedom.
USS Brisbane
USS Xerxes
USS Olympia
Mirror Universe:
ISS Retribution
ISS Vengeance
ISS Executor
ISS Fury
ISS Dark Star
USS Xerxes
USS Olympia
Mirror Universe:
ISS Retribution
ISS Vengeance
ISS Executor
ISS Fury
ISS Dark Star
hellsgate
Commodore
I could see the Vostok, the Amsterdam or the Advocate as one of Galen's Legacy-Class vessels or one of Kaden's (W.I.P.) Shima-Class vessels.
Shima-Class (Ventral View) by Kaden
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/214/e/8/GKD_CF_01___Shima___by_kaden_dark.png
(Dorsal View W.I.P) by Kaden
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/093/3/1/Shima_wip1_by_kaden_dark.png
I could see the U.S.S. Edinburgh as one of Kaden's Nomad-Class (Nova Meets Loknar-Class).
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs5/i/2004/343/8/c/Nomad_Class_by_kaden_dark.png
Shima-Class (Ventral View) by Kaden
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/214/e/8/GKD_CF_01___Shima___by_kaden_dark.png
(Dorsal View W.I.P) by Kaden
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs44/f/2009/093/3/1/Shima_wip1_by_kaden_dark.png
I could see the U.S.S. Edinburgh as one of Kaden's Nomad-Class (Nova Meets Loknar-Class).
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs5/i/2004/343/8/c/Nomad_Class_by_kaden_dark.png
Ooh, hockey-related ship names. I like it.
Well, then I'd have to go with USS Travor Linden.
Only if by the 24th century his birth cirtificate is public record.
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