"THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS"?
Name That STAR TREK Episode...
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Nope!
Clue # 15
One of the few occasions the love interest is not one of the Big Three.
Clue # 15
One of the few occasions the love interest is not one of the Big Three.
Nope!
Clue # 16
The opening scene is reminiscent of another opening scene.
Clue # 16
The opening scene is reminiscent of another opening scene.
I would guess "Specter of the Gun"
# 1, being mostly an illusion, we don't know what actually happened.
# 3, some people might want to stay with Sylvia who is in love with Chekov/Billy Caliborne.
# 10 Several languages are "heard" when the Melkotian speaks telepathically.
# 15. The love interest is interested in Chekov, not one of the Big Three.
Chekov has a love interest who one of the Earps is also interested in.
#5 The girl wants Chekov/Billy Claiborne to settle down and marry here, which can't happen because Billy is really Chekov , because Billy gets 'killed", and because she should be really an illusion.
# 12 The scenes on the Enterprise bookend the scenes on the planet. (there are two clues number 12!!!
# 14 Since their adventure is an illusion, they don't know what the planet really looks like.
#16 the opening scene is similar to "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Spock's Brain".
So I guess it is "Spectre (or Specter) of the Gun".
# 1, being mostly an illusion, we don't know what actually happened.
# 3, some people might want to stay with Sylvia who is in love with Chekov/Billy Caliborne.
# 10 Several languages are "heard" when the Melkotian speaks telepathically.
# 15. The love interest is interested in Chekov, not one of the Big Three.
Chekov has a love interest who one of the Earps is also interested in.
#5 The girl wants Chekov/Billy Claiborne to settle down and marry here, which can't happen because Billy is really Chekov , because Billy gets 'killed", and because she should be really an illusion.
# 12 The scenes on the Enterprise bookend the scenes on the planet. (there are two clues number 12!!!
# 14 Since their adventure is an illusion, they don't know what the planet really looks like.
#16 the opening scene is similar to "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Spock's Brain".
So I guess it is "Spectre (or Specter) of the Gun".
Well we got there in the end!! Well done MAGolding!
You got most of the clues you submitted, correct.
Here's the actual breakdown :
Clue # 1
We're not quite sure what actually happened.
Specifically, the end of the shoot-out takes us back on board the E, with Chekhov confused. Did what we witness take place, or was it played out in the affected officers' minds?
Clue # 2
It’s not as if they asked for any of this.
Like with Eminiar, the Melkotians may have shown aggression towards our heroes, but they did not ask to be interefered with.
Clue # 3
If I could have what a certain character has upon arrival, I might choose to stay.
Immediately upon arriving in the bar, Chekhov has an attractive girl who kisses him and is already in love with him. Lucky man!
Clue # 4
A touching moment after a certain character is chastised.
McCoy and Scott have a go at Spock for not mourning Chekhov's death. Even Kirk chips in. Spock reminds them he is half human, and we have some poignant reaction shots.
Clue # 5
There's at least two reasons the girl's wish can't come true.
1) Chekhov is not really Billy.
2) This reality is unreal.
Clue # 6
A certain activity is referenced here, and as far as I know, in only one other episode.
Shopping! Not sex
Chekhov's love interest says she has been shopping, and Chekhov tells Kirk he has offered to help Uhura shop in Trouble with Tribbles. (Kirk does buy groceries in City on the Edge, but never references the term 'shopping')
Clue # 7
The closing sequence is rare for TOS.
Perhaps on this occasion only - we end the episode approaching, not leaving a planet.
Clue # 8
One of the few times a work effort is required accross three of the regulars, completing the same task.
Spock, McCoy and Scotty all work together on the same thing - the gas can. Very rare for such a thing.
Clue # 9
The fact that this episode appears when it does, probably heightens its overall effect.
It's season three - known for the smallest budget. Yet, the minimalistic set works for representing Kirk's half-memories of the period.
Clue # 10
Several languages are heard in this episode.
Yep - each bridge officer hears the buoy warning in their native tongue.
Clue # 11
A non-human Earth creature is heard in this episode.
The horse! (My memory played tricks - I thought an actual horse was in the background at the OK Corral, until I checked)
Clue # 12a
The Enterprise scenes bookend the episode.
Yep - the planet stuff is the middle meat.
Clue # 12b
The female guest actress' character has two love interests.
Chekhov and one of the Earp brothers.
Clue # 13
It's interesting the number of people in the finale that results in the creation of a uniform image, especially given what it would have looked like if something hadn't occurred to someone earlier on.
The gunfight is exactly matched and staged with equal precision. Not so if Chekhov had stayed alive.
Clue # 14
Given the revelation at the conclusion, we probably never saw the true form of the planet in this episode.
The ambiguity surrounding the ending means even the foglike scene at the beginning may not have been a true appearance of the planet, since its possible our heroes never were there in the first place.
Clue # 15
One of the few occasions the love interest is not one of the Big Three.
Yep - the first of two occasions for Chekhov I think. Both S3.
Clue # 16
The opening scene is reminiscent of another opening scene.
Only as I was thinking of clues this late on, did I realise the similarity with the space buoy in the Corbomite Maneuver.
Well done Sir, really well done! The conn is yours!
You got most of the clues you submitted, correct.
Here's the actual breakdown :
Clue # 1
We're not quite sure what actually happened.
Specifically, the end of the shoot-out takes us back on board the E, with Chekhov confused. Did what we witness take place, or was it played out in the affected officers' minds?
Clue # 2
It’s not as if they asked for any of this.
Like with Eminiar, the Melkotians may have shown aggression towards our heroes, but they did not ask to be interefered with.
Clue # 3
If I could have what a certain character has upon arrival, I might choose to stay.
Immediately upon arriving in the bar, Chekhov has an attractive girl who kisses him and is already in love with him. Lucky man!
Clue # 4
A touching moment after a certain character is chastised.
McCoy and Scott have a go at Spock for not mourning Chekhov's death. Even Kirk chips in. Spock reminds them he is half human, and we have some poignant reaction shots.
Clue # 5
There's at least two reasons the girl's wish can't come true.
1) Chekhov is not really Billy.
2) This reality is unreal.
Clue # 6
A certain activity is referenced here, and as far as I know, in only one other episode.
Shopping! Not sex
Chekhov's love interest says she has been shopping, and Chekhov tells Kirk he has offered to help Uhura shop in Trouble with Tribbles. (Kirk does buy groceries in City on the Edge, but never references the term 'shopping')
Clue # 7
The closing sequence is rare for TOS.
Perhaps on this occasion only - we end the episode approaching, not leaving a planet.
Clue # 8
One of the few times a work effort is required accross three of the regulars, completing the same task.
Spock, McCoy and Scotty all work together on the same thing - the gas can. Very rare for such a thing.
Clue # 9
The fact that this episode appears when it does, probably heightens its overall effect.
It's season three - known for the smallest budget. Yet, the minimalistic set works for representing Kirk's half-memories of the period.
Clue # 10
Several languages are heard in this episode.
Yep - each bridge officer hears the buoy warning in their native tongue.
Clue # 11
A non-human Earth creature is heard in this episode.
The horse! (My memory played tricks - I thought an actual horse was in the background at the OK Corral, until I checked)
Clue # 12a
The Enterprise scenes bookend the episode.
Yep - the planet stuff is the middle meat.
Clue # 12b
The female guest actress' character has two love interests.
Chekhov and one of the Earp brothers.
Clue # 13
It's interesting the number of people in the finale that results in the creation of a uniform image, especially given what it would have looked like if something hadn't occurred to someone earlier on.
The gunfight is exactly matched and staged with equal precision. Not so if Chekhov had stayed alive.
Clue # 14
Given the revelation at the conclusion, we probably never saw the true form of the planet in this episode.
The ambiguity surrounding the ending means even the foglike scene at the beginning may not have been a true appearance of the planet, since its possible our heroes never were there in the first place.
Clue # 15
One of the few occasions the love interest is not one of the Big Three.
Yep - the first of two occasions for Chekhov I think. Both S3.
Clue # 16
The opening scene is reminiscent of another opening scene.
Only as I was thinking of clues this late on, did I realise the similarity with the space buoy in the Corbomite Maneuver.
Well done Sir, really well done! The conn is yours!
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Well we got there in the end!! Well done MAGolding!
You got most of the clues you submitted, correct.
Here's the actual breakdown :
Clue # 1
We're not quite sure what actually happened.
Specifically, the end of the shoot-out takes us back on board the E, with Chekhov confused. Did what we witness take place, or was it played out in the affected officers' minds?
Clue # 2
It’s not as if they asked for any of this.
Like with Eminiar, the Melkotians may have shown aggression towards our heroes, but they did not ask to be interefered with.
Clue # 3
If I could have what a certain character has upon arrival, I might choose to stay.
Immediately upon arriving in the bar, Chekhov has an attractive girl who kisses him and is already in love with him. Lucky man!
Clue # 4
A touching moment after a certain character is chastised.
McCoy and Scott have a go at Spock for not mourning Chekhov's death. Even Kirk chips in. Spock reminds them he is half human, and we have some poignant reaction shots.
Clue # 5
There's at least two reasons the girl's wish can't come true.
1) Chekhov is not really Billy.
2) This reality is unreal.
Clue # 6
A certain activity is referenced here, and as far as I know, in only one other episode.
Shopping! Not sex
Chekhov's love interest says she has been shopping, and Chekhov tells Kirk he has offered to help Uhura shop in Trouble with Tribbles. (Kirk does buy groceries in City on the Edge, but never references the term 'shopping')
Clue # 7
The closing sequence is rare for TOS.
Perhaps on this occasion only - we end the episode approaching, not leaving a planet.
Clue # 8
One of the few times a work effort is required accross three of the regulars, completing the same task.
Spock, McCoy and Scotty all work together on the same thing - the gas can. Very rare for such a thing.
Clue # 9
The fact that this episode appears when it does, probably heightens its overall effect.
It's season three - known for the smallest budget. Yet, the minimalistic set works for representing Kirk's half-memories of the period.
Clue # 10
Several languages are heard in this episode.
Yep - each bridge officer hears the buoy warning in their native tongue.
Clue # 11
A non-human Earth creature is heard in this episode.
The horse! (My memory played tricks - I thought an actual horse was in the background at the OK Corral, until I checked)
Clue # 12a
The Enterprise scenes bookend the episode.
Yep - the planet stuff is the middle meat.
Clue # 12b
The female guest actress' character has two love interests.
Chekhov and one of the Earp brothers.
Clue # 13
It's interesting the number of people in the finale that results in the creation of a uniform image, especially given what it would have looked like if something hadn't occurred to someone earlier on.
The gunfight is exactly matched and staged with equal precision. Not so if Chekhov had stayed alive.
Clue # 14
Given the revelation at the conclusion, we probably never saw the true form of the planet in this episode.
The ambiguity surrounding the ending means even the foglike scene at the beginning may not have been a true appearance of the planet, since its possible our heroes never were there in the first place.
Clue # 15
One of the few occasions the love interest is not one of the Big Three.
Yep - the first of two occasions for Chekhov I think. Both S3.
Clue # 16
The opening scene is reminiscent of another opening scene.
Only as I was thinking of clues this late on, did I realise the similarity with the space buoy in the Corbomite Maneuver.
Well done Sir, really well done! The conn is yours!
So now I guess I'll have to think of some cryptic clues for an episode.
Well obviously its Obsession and the death/resurrection of Lt. Leslie.
Probably not your answer but I always thought it strange in "Tomorrow is Yesterday" Kirk says to Captain Christopher on the bridge "Get your gear and report to the transporter room" accompanied by no one? He only has a short time, does he know where to go, how operate the turbolift, find his quarters, put on his gear, find the transporter room?? all by himself in time for the time warp transporter to work and put him back in correct time?
Sorry, but that is not the episode & plot hole I was thinking of.
To me that does not seem like a big plot hole because I believe that in a long running and highly episodic television (or other type of fiction) series almost every episode happens in a separate alternate universe of its own, different from the alternate universes of other episodes. Only episodes which are clearly sequels to other episodes happen in the same universes.
So to me, there is no problem with Lt. Leslie getting killed in "Obsession" and being alive in other episodes which probably happen in alternate universes.
And even if Leslie is killed in "Obsession" but is seen alive in a later scene in the episode, that later scene could have come from an alternate universe where he wasn't killed, if an episode sometimes contains scenes from two or more different alternate universes. That could account for some of the less coherent episode plots!
.If someone believes that somehow all the TOS adventures happen in the same alternate universe, one after the other in airdate order, production order, or stardate order, or some other order, the survival of Leslie is harder to explain.
Possibly a lot of famous or successful people are cloned in TOS era society, and those clones are raised by different families. In that case every Eddie Paskey character in TOS could have been a clone of a famous earlier Starfleet officer, and several of them might serve together on the Enterprise.
That might explain how how Dr. Anne Mulhall and Dr. Miranda Jones looked so similar, and how Dr. Simon van Gelder and Captain Ron Tracy looked so similar, and how Lt. Commander Giotto and Commodore Bob Wesley looked so similar, and so on.
That does seem a bit careless of Kirk. Possibly by then Kirk had assigned someone to accompany Capt. Christopher everywhere. Naturally I forget whether the door to the turbolift was visible when Christopher left the bridge. If Christopher was seen entering the turbolift alone, it would seem he didn't have anyone assigned to help him, but if he exited off screen we can imagine someone went with him to make s certain he got to the transporter room in time.
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Where have I heard this before?...oh yah: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cloning-for-colonization.297508/
You have all the time in the world when you are in a time machine...
Yes, that is big plot hole, but not the one I was thinking of.
The plot hole in the episode I am thinking of is more of a hole in the logic of the story than in the scientific theories characters mention in the story.
So keep on thinking of plot holes in TOS episodes.
CLUE # 2:
Some fans think that there is a contradiction between this episode and an earlier episode of TOS, and have discussed possible explanations of it.
Long shot - is it The Enterprise Incident?
The plan is to steal this "new" cloaking device, yet the Romulans have been seen to use this throughout all their earlier battles.
The plan is to steal this "new" cloaking device, yet the Romulans have been seen to use this throughout all their earlier battles.
No, it is not "The Enterprise Incident".
It is generally assumed that the clacking device in "Enterprise Incident" was some sort of improvement over the one in "Balance of Terror". Or possibly "Balance of Terror" and "The Enterprise Incident" happen in two different alternate universes and thus the smale cloaking device could be new in both episodes.
Perhaps another clue, dear sir?
So a third clue, one that is not too obvious and won't give away the episode immediately to everyone who reads it, but will not be so arcane and esoteric that nobody will be able to to guess the episode.
How about:
CLUE # 3:
This episode shows that in science fiction and fantasy a specific well known English language saying, proverb, or expression that I am thinking of is not always accurate and correct.
How about:
CLUE # 3:
This episode shows that in science fiction and fantasy a specific well known English language saying, proverb, or expression that I am thinking of is not always accurate and correct.
Whom Gods Destroy?
1) Kirk and Spock using a chess game as a means of security identification? Surely a very poor choice? Are the moves prepared? Surely there are better methods of security identification.
2) Contradicts Dagger of the Mind - penal colony obviously isn't the only mental health facility.
3) Something about absolute power corrupting? In this case, Garth is broken, but the medicine helps to heal his madness, and technically he doesn't "fall" but steps onto a path of being healed.
1) Kirk and Spock using a chess game as a means of security identification? Surely a very poor choice? Are the moves prepared? Surely there are better methods of security identification.
2) Contradicts Dagger of the Mind - penal colony obviously isn't the only mental health facility.
3) Something about absolute power corrupting? In this case, Garth is broken, but the medicine helps to heal his madness, and technically he doesn't "fall" but steps onto a path of being healed.
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