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My TOS Shuttlecraft...

Warped9, another shuttle that you might want to add the complement of Enterprise shuttlecraft is the Einstein, NCC-1701/6 . It was seen the TOS-R Episode "Doomsday Machine". It is a class F shuttle.
 
Sarvek said:
Warped9, another shuttle that you might want to add the complement of Enterprise shuttlecraft is the Einstein, NCC-1701/6 . It was seen the TOS-R Episode "Doomsday Machine". It is a class F shuttle.
No. TOS-R means nothing to me. Thank you for the suggestion anyway.

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Warped9 said:
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This shuttlecraft always reminded me of an Eagle from Space: 1999. I have that particular comic in my collection. I need to see if it was before or after Space: 1999.
I like it! :thumbsup: Yep, the nacelles need a little tweaking. Will you be placing a Cage-era spire on them?
 
^^ I'm not considering the spikes on the nacelles. I don't htink it would look right or really be needed.
 
Actually that comic book shuttle is a dead ringer for a Mark IX Hawk from Space 1999...Except that it is much shorter
 
Captain Robert April said:


That would be this one.

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I was fascinated by Capt. Robert April's scanned excerpt (see above).

This could be adapted to be a pre-TOS ("Cage" era) Class F Shuttlecraft.

It would have to be the same overall dimensions as the TOS-era Class F. Essentially, it would have to be the same ship, just different shape and maybe a little bulkier. The wings and nacelles would either have to be more like the TOS-era Class F or maybe fold into the body for storage, like the folding wings of the NX-Beta during ENT's "First Flight":

http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=91&pos=398

Of course, the one thing that Jefferies' drawings are missing would have to be essential to "give away" the earlier era the ship would fly in: TAILFINS.

Hold the chrome. :lol:
 
I apologize in advance if this steps on anyone's toes, but there's an active discussion thread in the "Trek Tech" forum on this site about fightercraft being launched from Federation starships.

I came up with the idea of multi-purpose "probecraft" that were essentially two-man, multi-purpose scout vehicles that could serve as "fighters" in combat. I haven't drawn anything yet, but I did lay down some details in the thread. My idea was essentially a cross between Carter Winston's TAS scout ship and the NX Program prototype vehicles in ENT's "First Flight".

I think this is the URL for the thread:

"Shipboard Federation Fighter" thread
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=8200086
 
Fighter craft aren't on the table for this project. And ENT most certainly doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned, but thanks for the input.

Anyway, something new. Note that the forward landing strut will be shortened a bit.

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Warped9 said:
Note that the forward landing strut will be shortened a bit.
My intent is for the Class H to have the same height overall as the Class F. And I may redesign the forward strut to some extent.

Soon I will have some hard numbers for dimensions.
 
Warped9 said:
Warped9 said:
Note that the forward landing strut will be shortened a bit.
My intent is for the Class H to have the same height overall as the Class F. And I may redesign the forward strut to some extent.

Soon I will have some hard numbers for dimensions.

I really like the fact that the Class H is different in some features in relation to the Class F. It's height should be somewhat different than the Class F. It give it more of a distinct difference than the Class F. Keep up the great work and I really like the way this project is going. ;)
 
The H's height might well be a smidgen different, but it'll be close.

The overall width and height dimensions will change a bit, but everything else is pretty much right.

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I think the Class H's body should be longer, and more distinct from the Class F.

By sweeping the nacelles back, you have room within the overall length of the vehicle for a longer main hull and maybe that can give you a little latitude for a differently shaped cabin.

My only question: does the Class H fit onto the hangar deck's turntable/elevator?
 
Wingsley said:
I think the Class H's body should be longer, and more distinct from the Class F.

By sweeping the nacelles back, you have room within the overall length of the vehicle for a longer main hull and maybe that can give you a little latitude for a differently shaped cabin.

My only question: does the Class H fit onto the hangar deck's turntable/elevator?
The Class H looks exactly the way I want it and it will fit onto the turntable/elevator when I'm done with the hangar deck drawings. The Class H is just under 29ft. long while the Class F is just under 26ft.
 
This evening I'll be starting some preliminary sketching for my servipod vehicle of which two are stored at the lowest of the the three hangar decks. The servipod is meant to be the TOS era predecessor to the workpod seen in TMP and influenced by MJ's early sketches as he worked toward the eventual familiar shuttlecraft design.
 
A little comparison between classes. Also the H's forward strut has been properly shortened and a spell check performed on the history notes.

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While I continue to struggle with the interior between-the-hulls details here is the completed Class H exterior.

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I'm gratified that the final hard dimensions for the Class ha are so close to the F's. The overall height is near exactly the same, the width is barely two inches wider and the length is just under 3ft. more. Neato.
 
And something else new to ponder...

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And keep in mind that except when using the turntable/elevator the shuttlecraft would be stored two abreast whether on the flight deck or the maintenance/storage deck.
 
This needs to be fleshed out as deck plans. The "maintenance and storage deck" and "utility pod storage deck" would be irregular spaces, and the integration of them with the fantail in a sensible layout would be important. In other words, whatever the reason for the scalloped fantail, those spaces need to make optimum use of the odd space the scallop defines. Similarly, the placement of all this just aft of the pylons should be mandated by more than just the things launching out the back. After all, they could launch out the side. But if there is a large structural framework and "plumbing" that integrates with the pylons, and is largely minimized aft of the pylons, then there is more space AND an aftward launch afforded by that stern position.

The scallop gives the pods a larger door to access the interior -- either upwards of forwards. But the way you have modified it, I don't think the decks line up with the scallop's hatch markings any longer.
 
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