My thoughts on the movie and on Checkov

[indranee]

Didn't much care for Chekov's age, personally. I loved his quirks and found him incredibly likable. No-one seems to take him seriously (because of his age and accent), yet he's brilliant in what he's doing. I think that's a great way of portraying Chekov. Anton Yelchin did a wonderful job of making him my favorite character of this movie. Just like Walter Koenig did before him.

I walked away with the idea that Chekov is exceptional with numbers, which is why he knew how to beam up the falling Kirk & Sulu, while accounting for mass, gravity, rate of descent and friction.

I also like how the transporter requires you to remain still. That's a nice limitation in the movie.

J.

John, that can't be true. because Chekov beamed Kirk and Sulu while they were falling through the air. I think it's really a matter of the lock. once you achieve it and "hold on" to it, and the subject is moving at the same velocity as before the lock, everything should work fine. if, once you've achieved a lock, somehow the subject moves completely out of range (as in Amanda's case), you've got to try again.

FWIW, I really don't understand the difference in the two situations that occured in the movie. how could they beam up Kirk and Sulu and yet lose Amanda? can someone who knows better help?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I wish they had made him 19, 17 was just too.. Wesley Crusher for me. But I got over it.

IMHO the funniest line in the whole movie is when Chekov says, "O.. Olsen is GONE sir!" This just cracks me up for some reason. Priceless.

 

[HighteeHeller]

I want to know how it was so difficult to transport a person while falling, but transporting three people, from two different locations, moving through space, on two different ships, doesn't seem so hard.

Wouldn't a person transporting from one ship to another be moving as fast or if not faster then a person falling through the atmosphere; as with Spock on the jellyfish and Kirk/Pike on the Narada?

 

[FailedLurker]

FWIW, I really don't understand the difference in the two situations that occured in the movie. how could they beam up Kirk and Sulu and yet lose Amanda? can someone who knows better help?

Kirk and Sulu, freefalling in Vulcan gravity, were accelerating at a constant rate, or if they had reached terminal velocity they were falling at a relatively constant rate. Either way, once Chekov programmed the transporter with the right equation to track them, the computer was able to maintain lock. Helping this was the fact that they both had communicators with them, so the computer could track their signal easily, and they fell for several minutes waiting for all of this to happen.

Amanda, on the other hand, was standing still when the transporter locked on, then suddenly wasn't there anymore; she wasn't where the transporter expected her to be. She had no communicator, making it harder to track her to establish a new lock, was not falling in a constant, predictable path, and very likely died in the collapse before they could reestablish lock.

That's the way I saw it, anyway.

IMHO the funniest line in the whole movie is when Chekov says, "O.. Olsen is GONE sir!" This just cracks me up for some reason. Priceless.

I loved the way he says, "Koork has landed!"

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Why is Chekov the hardest name for even ST fans to spell properly?

Haha because it isnt a real Russian name...if it were Chekhov it might be getting closer

Irrelevant.

I said for STAR TREK FANS to spell.

We should be USED TO the spelling after 42 years of seeing it.

Fuck, let me know when everybody starts getting "Khan" right.

 

[indranee]

heck, after all this time, he might as well be jewish.

FailedLurker, thanks about the transporter stuff. that makes sense. it's good to know I wasn't too far off. it's kind of what I posted... just in a liberal arts grad kinda way

basically, though, I like the fact that the transporters are so iffy. makes McCoy's qualms in TOS all the more relevant.

 

[Jeri]

Regarding transporters, Orci said in the Q&A that they weren't worried about warp-speed beaming becoming too convenient, because that whole hydraulics scene with Scotty nearly drowning was to show that even Spock couldn't calculate it well enough to do it safely.

The hydraulics scene was also a plot device so that Chekov would notice Kirk's unauthorized access of a terminal -- and hence Spock would be informed Kirk was back on board. It mentions in the novelization that Chekov noticed the unauthorized access, precisely because it was an infrequently used part of the ship.

 

[Mr. Scott]

I have always disliked Walter Koenig's Chekhov, however, I liked this kid. I would of written into the storyline that he had the same parents, but in the new timeline, the original Chekhov was not even born, or existed.

 

[darkshadow0001]

I think people are forgetting that this movie is in an alternate reality. So things are bound to be different, and I can accept Chekov and the other characters being in it. The alternate reality concept explains why there's a lot on it that shouldn't be... for one, Romulans