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My story ideas, which should I expand on?

You_Guyz

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I've had these story ideas knocking around for a while and would quite like to expand on some of them.
I was hoping for some feedback on what you thought the potential of these story ideas were and whether you liked them or not.
They're all for Voyager as I find writing for DS9 and TNG quite a bit more difficult for some reason.

Season 6: Dilemmas

-Janeway faces a dilemma of whether to assist a warp capable but warlike race reach beyond the solar system in the hope of continuing their species.

Season 3: Escape
-Harry and Kes are trapped when war breaks out on a politically unstable planet the crew are exploring in the hope of finding vital supplies. As the threat of planetwide destruction looms, they must rely on each other to make their way across a chaotic city to contact Voyager.

Season 6: Consequences

-The Voyager encounters a shuttlecraft containing refugees of a colony attacked by a species that “appeared out of nowhere” and ravaged their planet. The crew debate about the possibility of whether it was the Vaduuar and whether they should risk investigating.

Season 5: Primetime

-Trapped unaware in a recreation of Voyager by a race addicted to reality television, the crew experience a sequence of increasingly bizarre and frightening situations.

Season 5: |Stuck on a name for this one|

-Voyager encounters a shuttle containing a young girl claiming to be the offspring of Seven and Kim and a recording of an older Seven and Harry explaining a future they never thought possible.

Season 3: Beyond Reach
-A young psychic called Dhitat visiting Voyager abducts Kes forcing her into a virtual world where she must obey his commands or face death, but is this “virtual” world what it seems or has Dhitat unleashed a frightening new dimension of Kes’s powers?

Season 2: Compromises
-Torres awakes 10 years into the future to find that Voyager has been destroyed and she has settled down with a delta quadrant native and started a family.


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If you have any questions on what direction I'm planning to take on some episodes, feel free to ask-

-Here are some further explanations of some of the episodes-

Dilemmas: Its not a simple answer "no".
The (dying) planet would be trapped within a nebula and the race would not have the technology to send their ships through.
Janeway is reminded of the warlike appearance of the Humans when the Vulcans first arrived and hence the dilemma. Should she give the aliens a chance at life or is it too risky to unleash a warlike species on the quadrant?


Escape: I see this as a fairly simple get from A to B with a lot of obstacles in between. I see this as a good chance to get to know more about Harry and Kes and how they would react in this situation, two characters we never really saw together very much. I also see some beginnings of romantic involvement here.

Consequences: I see this as a Seven episode with her dealing with the guilt she feels about awakening the Vaadwaur. The crew decides that the risk of the attackers of the colony actually being the Borg is too high and so they eventually decide not to go and investigate but rather to steer clear and increase speed.
Seven would take the Delta Flyer herself feeling that she was, for the first time since she had been freed from the collective, once again responsibility for the displacement of a people.
She would attempt to sabotage their attempts at colonising the planet before being captured - Voyager would save the day yet not the colony.


Beyond Reach: The episode would revolve around Kes seemingly being in a virtual/holodeck like environment forced to carry out exact missions or face death. But we will find out that while Kes is on his ship the entire time, he's actually tapping into her hidden power of some sort of astral projection and that everything Kes does in this virtual world is actually being done on the planet through her projection - he's using her as a weapon to steal information etc.

Compromises: B'Ellana awakens with this memory loss but is eventually convinced of the facts and begins to quickly fall for who she thinks is her husband. We eventually discover however that her husband had visited Voyager weeks before and had become infatuated with her yet she spurned his advances.
He abducted B'Ellana and created this artificial environment to make her his wife.
When B'Ellana founds out, she is naturally angry and disturbed but it helps her realise that if she is more open and less cold, she will have a bigger chance of finding happiness.


The One with Seven and Harry's Child: My idea would be for the girl to have escaped a disaster on the planet where the future Kim family to have been living. She was sent through time by Seven to the present Voyager.
All this would be explained in the recording and the girl's DNA would seem to check out.
We eventually find out that the radiation from this disaster is affecting the girl and she is dying. Seven contemplates motherhood and learns what it means to love as the girl dies from her debilitating condition. Harry also matures and begins to contemplate his long term future on Voyager.

In the end however, after the girl is dies, we are informed via a message that it was in fact not their daughter but a dying shapeshifter who had visited Voyager weeks before that had never known love and wanted to know what it meant to be loved before it died.
The feelings felt through the experience and the thoughts that it brings up in the minds of Harry and Seven remain even as they find out that the girl wasn't their daughter.
 
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Season 6: Dilemmas[/B]
-Janeway faces a dilemma of whether to assist a warp capable but warlike race reach beyond the solar system in the hope of continuing their species.

No. This isn't a dilemma. The answer is just "No."

Season 3: Escape
-Harry and Kes are trapped when war breaks out on a politically unstable planet the crew are exploring in the hope of finding vital supplies. As the threat of planetwide destruction looms, they must rely on each other to make their way across a chaotic city to contact Voyager.

I like this idea a lot, but not sure about the Harry/Kes combo. It could be interesting, but they're both sort of the "ingenue" type. I would expect some significant character development for one or both to come out of an event like this.

Season 6: Consequences

-The Voyager encounters a shuttlecraft containing refugees of a colony attacked by a species that “appeared out of nowhere” and ravaged their planet. The crew debate about the possibility of whether it was the Vaduuar and whether they should risk investigating.

I would only do this is if it WAS the Vaadwaur, and you planned to explore the consequences of what VOY did in regard to that race.

Season 5: Primetime

-Trapped unaware in a recreation of Voyager by a race addicted to reality television, the crew experience a sequence of increasingly bizarre and frightening situations.

Hehe. This could be fun.

Season 5: |Stuck on a name for this one|

-Voyager encounters a shuttle containing a young girl claiming to be the offspring of Seven and Kim and a recording of an older Seven and Harry explaining a future they never thought possible.

Not a fan of this idea at all, sorry. I don't like "previously unknown spawn of" type stories. Too many ethical considerations that can't easily be explained away ...

Season 3: Beyond Reach
-A young psychic called Dhitat visiting Voyager abducts Kes forcing her into a virtual world where she must obey his commands or face death, but is this “virtual” world what it seems or has Dhitat unleashed a frightening new dimension of Kes’s powers?

Eh. On the fence. Sounds a little "warlord-y" to me. If done well, it could be entertaining anyway, though.

Season 2: Compromises
-Torres awakes 10 years into the future to find that Voyager has been destroyed and she has settled down with a delta quadrant native and started a family.


Interesting. I'd be curious to read that.
 
Not a fan of this idea at all, sorry. I don't like "previously unknown spawn of" type stories. Too many ethical considerations that can't easily be explained away ...

My idea would be for the girl to have escaped a disaster on the planet where the future Kim family to have been living. She was sent through time by Seven to the present Voyager.
All this would be explained in the recording and the girl's DNA would seem to check out.
We eventually find out that the radiation from this disaster is affecting the girl and she is dying. Seven contemplates motherhood and learns what it means to love as the girl dies from her debilitating condition. Harry also matures and begins to contemplate his long term future on Voyager.

In the end however, after the girl is dies, we are informed via a message that it was in fact not their daughter but a dying shapeshifter who had visited Voyager weeks before that had never known love and wanted to know what it meant to be loved before it died.
The feelings felt through the experience and the thoughts that it brings up in the minds of Harry and Seven remain even as they find out that the girl wasn't their daughter.


-I just realised none of my stories involved the doctor, in fact I never thought of him once thinking up these ideas, I guess I really DID get tired of his character in the end-
 
My advice?

Just...ask yourself which concepts have the most possibilities.

Try to flesh them out. Chances are, if you do, you'll take off with at least one--which you'll fall in love with so much, you just have to get it out.

Remember: A good-sounding concept doesn't automatically yield a good tale. Many times, you may stumble on a concept that sounds AWESOME--and then find that you can't follow through. (Don't throw it away, though--keep it in your notes--and maybe someday, you'll find a way to keep it going. ;))

On the other hand...an allegedly "lame" concept can potentially grow into an excellent story--if you connect with it enough, and feel the words flow through you.

Here's a good method: When you look at the concept, keep asking yourself, "Why?" Why would Janeway really want to help a warlike species--and what would make this reason valid to the reader? Why does Dhitat want to put Kes through all that? And so on.

But above all, as yourself: "What would make this concept a story that I would want to read?" Put yourself in the reader's position--judge your work as if you were the reader--and you will not fail.

Bottom line: You--and only you--can determine which of your ideas will fly.

Does...that help? :)
 
I've come up with plausible extensions for most of the ideas.
A few more extensions to add to the one with Seven and Harry's daughter.

Dilemmas: Its not a simple answer "no".
The (dying) planet would be trapped within a nebula and the race would not have the technology to send their ships through.
Janeway is reminded of the warlike appearance of the Humans when the Vulcans first arrived and hence the dilemma. Should she give the aliens a chance at life or is it too risky to unleash a warlike species on the quadrant?

Escape: I see this as a fairly simple get from A to B with a lot of obstacles in between. I see this as a good chance to get to know more about Harry and Kes and how they would react in this situation, two characters we never really saw together very much. I also see some beginnings of romantic involvement here.

Consequences: I see this as a Seven episode with her dealing with the guilt she feels about awakening the Vaadwaur.
The crew decides that the risk of the attackers of the colony actually being the Borg means they eventually decide not to go and investigate but rather to steer clear and increase speed.
Seven would take the Delta Flyer herself feeling that she was, for the first time since she had been freed from the collective, once again responsibility for the displacement of a people.
She would attempt to sabotage their attempts at colonising the planet before being captured - Voyager would save the day yet not the colony.

Beyond Reach: The episode would revolve around Kes seemingly being in a virtual/holodeck like environment forced to carry out exact missions or face death. But we will find out that while Kes is on his ship the entire time, he's actually tapping into her hidden power of some sort of astral projection and that everything Kes does in this virtual world is actually being done on the planet through her projection - he's using her as a weapon to steal vital information etc.

Compromises: B'Ellana awakens with this memory loss but is eventually convinced of the facts and begins to quickly fall for who she thinks is her husband. We eventually discover however that her husband had visited Voyager weeks before and had become infatuated with her yet she spurned his advances.
He abducted B'Ellana and created this artificial environment to make her his wife.
When B'Ellana founds out, she is naturally angry and disturbed but it helps her realise that if she is more open and less cold, she will have a bigger chance of finding happiness.
 
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Season 6: Dilemmas
-Janeway faces a dilemma of whether to assist a warp capable but warlike race reach beyond the solar system in the hope of continuing their species.
Janeway escorts the warriors to the virgin fertile world that Voyagers sensor found, but once on the surface she "stabs them in the back" by destroying their warp capable ships. Chakotay points out they'll eventual regain space flight, Janeway responds that would be hundreds, if not thousands of years - "... maybe they will evolve by then."

Season 5: Primetime
-Trapped unaware in a recreation of Voyager by a race addicted to reality television, the crew experience a sequence of increasingly bizarre and frightening situations.
The crew is forced to ballroom dance, badly sing and lose dangerous amounts of weight.

Season 5: |Stuck on a name for this one|
-Voyager encounters a shuttle containing a young girl claiming to be the offspring of Seven and Kim and a recording of an older Seven and Harry explaining a future they never thought possible.
A bit of comedy, Seven runs around the ship trying the keep her daughter out of Tom Paris's bed. By "young girl" you mean she is seventeen and we're talking Paris here.

:lol:
 
If anything, these sound like actual episodes of Voyager that were never made. Very good 'sense' of the style they were doing.

Rob
 
Oh boy...

Season 6: Dilemmas[/B]
-Janeway faces a dilemma of whether to assist a warp capable but warlike race reach beyond the solar system in the hope of continuing their species.
Hell no. It's another "Janeway has to decide how much time to waste on some asinine diversion" episode.

Season 3: Escape
-Harry and Kes are trapped when war breaks out on a politically unstable planet the crew are exploring in the hope of finding vital supplies. As the threat of planetwide destruction looms, they must rely on each other to make their way across a chaotic city to contact Voyager.
Sounds promising, but there are alot of ways you can do this wrong. It would have to play out as a fairly nitty-gritty "cauterized a bullet wound with a piece of metal and a phaser" type episode.

Season 6: Consequences

-The Voyager encounters a shuttlecraft containing refugees of a colony attacked by a species that “appeared out of nowhere” and ravaged their planet. The crew debate about the possibility of whether it was the Vaduuar and whether they should risk investigating.
Same problem as "Dilemmas."

Season 5: Primetime

-Trapped unaware in a recreation of Voyager by a race addicted to reality television, the crew experience a sequence of increasingly bizarre and frightening situations.
Interesting premise, but it inevitably requires the use of the famous Voyager reset button. It could be workable, though, if said aliens simply sneak aboard Voyager and menace the crew with strange situations to get entertainment from their reactions. Think of it like "Day of the Dove" only funnier.

Season 5: |Stuck on a name for this one|

-Voyager encounters a shuttle containing a young girl claiming to be the offspring of Seven and Kim and a recording of an older Seven and Harry explaining a future they never thought possible.
A rehash of E-squared. hell no.

Season 3: Beyond Reach
-A young psychic called Dhitat visiting Voyager abducts Kes forcing her into a virtual world where she must obey his commands or face death, but is this “virtual” world what it seems or has Dhitat unleashed a frightening new dimension of Kes’s powers?
Didn't they already do this in that Evil Clown episode?

Season 2: Compromises
-Torres awakes 10 years into the future to find that Voyager has been destroyed and she has settled down with a delta quadrant native and started a family.

That's been done AT LEAST three times.


Primetime and Escape are, so far, your most original candidates. I'd vote Prime Time, just because it has alot of potential for humor and raucous character moments instead of focussing on just the two characters.
 
@ newtype_alpha, read some of the extensions now pasted into the original post and you'll see that they're really not rehashes at all.
 
I like the Kim/7 Shipper Fic (Season Five).

Voyager makes it home as they did in "Timeless". Seven and Kim's daughter is trying to reverse the loss of her mother. Kim's raised their daughter on his own for the most part with help from the Voyager crew. Kim and Reg Barclay have collaborated to design the newest (hush hush) Federation/Starfleet timeship as Kim's pet project at Starfleet Research/Utopia Planetia, inspired by Borg temporal vortex / Krenim temporal deflection technology. In addition to being motivated by his experience with alternate realities. They've trained Seven's daughter with help from the holodoc to pilot / maintain the ship, crewed by personnel close to those lost in the meantime.

Credit: Image by Suricata. Designed by John Eaves.
http://suricatasblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/ramjet.jpg

This is the ship that reaches Voyager & tries to re-write history altogether, if they can't redirect Voyager to a convenient warp catapult, redirect them to DS9/Idran, or tow it home via calculated slipstream "hops".

I just wish you hadn't already explained the ending. I'd include a recording as per the original idea, but only of Kim and not Seven.

Suggested Titles:


  • "What You Leave Behind"
  • "Up The Long Ladder"
  • "String Theory"
 
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Sorry but I think Voyager had enough nonsensical time travel plots, I couldn't even understand your's, too much technobabble.
I much prefer the idea of my episode being about Seven becoming a mother.
 
Honestly, you should decide which stories interest you most as the author. If you end up trying to write for your readers’ tastes, the end result will suffer if you lack enthusiasm for that particular subject or character(s). Write for yourself first, be true to the characters you’re writing, keep your pace and plotting tight, and the readers will come. :)
 
The synopses sound intriguing in an A-plot kind of way, but what I really want to know is what's at stake for the characters themselves. What personal connections do they have to the stories? How will they grow and change? What do you want to show them learning about themselves and others? I guess what I'm saying is all good Trek stories to me start with the characters and their inperpersonal relationships, rather than the external conflicts themselves. That's why I never really took to the holodeck-or-transporter-malfunction-of-the-week sorts of VOY and TNG plots, and gravitate more towards DS9 and Manny Coto-era ENT.

Spacial anomalies and temporal anomalies are all well and good, but what intrigues me more as a member of the audience are the people as people.
 
I have to throw in with what Rush Limborg and Tara both said. Go with your gut and think of what character motivations and stories really speak to you. A neat concept is nothing more than that, a neat concept. If it doesn't contain some meat and speak to you as an author in some way, it's not going to interest readers, either. How will each of those concepts serve for character development? What can you say about the Voyager characters that hasn't already been said in the tv show? How can you bring out new facets while staying true to their core identities?

Also, be aware that not every idea or concept you have is going to interest every reader. If people are giving you negative feedback about some of the ideas, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a crappy idea. They're just saying they don't like it. If you think it's worth writing anyway because it speaks to you, then write it. Don't defend it with a full synopsis, or nobody will have a reason to read. Surprise us. :)
 
The synopses sound intriguing in an A-plot kind of way, but what I really want to know is what's at stake for the characters themselves. What personal connections do they have to the stories? How will they grow and change? What do you want to show them learning about themselves and others? I guess what I'm saying is all good Trek stories to me start with the characters and their inperpersonal relationships, rather than the external conflicts themselves. That's why I never really took to the holodeck-or-transporter-malfunction-of-the-week sorts of VOY and TNG plots, and gravitate more towards DS9 and Manny Coto-era ENT.

Spacial anomalies and temporal anomalies are all well and good, but what intrigues me more as a member of the audience are the people as people.

I think its quite clear how each plot links into character development...especially if you read the extensions.
 
Your extensions aren't the story though. I find when I start a story I'll have a vague idea on how I want it to go, and on how I want the characters to react. But the end result isn't always what you expect. Going from plot point 1 to plot point 2 is where the development happens.

Other then that, I would say each of them show promise. I think I see the reality tv one as being the best shot for comedy though.
 
I think I'm gonna start writing a script soon, its very exciting!
I'm thinking the one with Seven and Harry's child has a lot of potential but I'm also tempted by "Beyond Reach" since its just so out there.
 
Most of the ideas you've posted sound like perfectly plausible episodes of Star Trek Voyager, just comes down to which one interests you most to write about - no real point sitting down and trying to write one of the ones you're not so interested in.

I quite like the one with Harry and Kes making their way across an alien planet, again it sounds like an episode of series three!
 
Season 6: Dilemmas
-Janeway faces a dilemma of whether to assist a warp capable but warlike race reach beyond the solar system in the hope of continuing their species.
What dilemma? If they're warp capable, they can figure it out for themselves. Yes, I read the additional notes you posted, but really... The criterion for whether or not to make contact/offer help has been if the species is warp-capable. Their being warlike or not hasn't been a part of the equation. And in "First Contact" the Vulcans didn't have to decide if we were worth helping because we were warlike - at that point in time, all they knew was that Earth people had a beat-up jalopy for a warp ship and terrible taste in music!

If I were Janeway, I'd say, "Figure it out yourselves" and go on to the next story.

Season 3: Escape
-Harry and Kes are trapped when war breaks out on a politically unstable planet the crew are exploring in the hope of finding vital supplies. As the threat of planetwide destruction looms, they must rely on each other to make their way across a chaotic city to contact Voyager.
I do not like Kes. Never have - and in this story, all she would need to do would be to send a telepathic message to Tuvok - problem solved. The story would work far better with Harry and Seven, in my opinion.

Season 6: Consequences

-The Voyager encounters a shuttlecraft containing refugees of a colony attacked by a species that “appeared out of nowhere” and ravaged their planet. The crew debate about the possibility of whether it was the Vaduuar and whether they should risk investigating.
Okay, sounds like a good start...

Season 5: Primetime

-Trapped unaware in a recreation of Voyager by a race addicted to reality television, the crew experience a sequence of increasingly bizarre and frightening situations.
Have Jeff Probst make an appearance, and I'll read it. :techman:

Season 5: |Stuck on a name for this one|

-Voyager encounters a shuttle containing a young girl claiming to be the offspring of Seven and Kim and a recording of an older Seven and Harry explaining a future they never thought possible.
Of all the choices you presented here, this is the one I like best. But then I'm a sucker for a good Seven story, and I think it would be fun to explore a more mature relationship between her and Harry.

Season 3: Beyond Reach
-A young psychic called Dhitat visiting Voyager abducts Kes forcing her into a virtual world where she must obey his commands or face death, but is this “virtual” world what it seems or has Dhitat unleashed a frightening new dimension of Kes’s powers?
Don't care. I find paint drying more interesting than Kes.

Season 2: Compromises
-Torres awakes 10 years into the future to find that Voyager has been destroyed and she has settled down with a delta quadrant native and started a family.

This has some interesting possibilities. I never cared much for B'Elanna, but when an author gets away from the stereotypical Angry Klingon and gets into who she is as a person, I enjoy the story more.

-Here are some further explanations of some of the episodes-
Shame you posted this - now we don't really have any reason to read the stories, since you gave the entire plot and plot twists away. :(
 
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