My speculations on a key plot point

[Duane]

My apologies if someone else has mentioned this idea before.

JJ has mentioned that the new movie will explain how the deep Kirk/Spock bond formed in the first place, something we never really saw in TOS.

My guesses:
1. 60% chance that Spock will sacrifice his son to save Kirk, and defeat Nero at the same time.
2. 40% chance that Kirk will sacrifice his son to save Spock, and defeat Nero.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Except that they're both young and have no sons that we know of.

And the fact that sacrificing other people - particularly family members - is not something that most people identify with as particularly heroic or ennobling.

 

[Duane]

Possibly more likely that the old Spock sacrifices himself to save the young Kirk, thus creating the bond. That seems a bit hammy though.

 

[Procutus]

I'm much more interested in seeing how the beginning of their friendship corresponds with what we saw in the second TOS pilot, 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'. From my perspective, their friendship began after the events of that ep, particularly Mitchell's death and the effect it had on Kirk.

Then again, if the plot of this movie does indeed take the characters off on a slightly different path than what we knew, then anything is possible.

 

[shatastrophic]

I'm much more interested in seeing how the beginning of their friendship corresponds with what we saw in the second TOS pilot, 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'.

You will, if WNMHGB still occurs.

 

[EyalM]

My apologies if someone else has mentioned this idea before.

JJ has mentioned that the new movie will explain how the deep Kirk/Spock bond formed in the first place, something we never really saw in TOS.

My guesses:
1. 60% chance that Spock will sacrifice his son to save Kirk, and defeat Nero at the same time.
2. 40% chance that Kirk will sacrifice his son to save Spock, and defeat Nero.

Didn't Kirk already sacrifice his son to save Spock (in a manar of speaking) in TSFS?

 

[Tamek]

Actually this might be the trick. Spock electrocutes Kirk to short out the micro-bomb that Nero has shoved up his nose with the nose-gun thing. Then Spock does CPR on Kirk to save him.

 

[Augustus]

Actually this might be the trick. Spock electrocutes Kirk to short out the micro-bomb that Nero has shoved up his nose with the nose-gun thing. Then Spock does CPR on Kirk to save him.

Yes I can see it, the climax of the movie is old spock and young spock doing CPR to save kirk's life...
Afterward, old spock dies of exhaustion and Kirk and young spock become best buds...

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Bah! I want Kirk and Spock to become friends because of their personalities, not because they saved each other's family members, furniture or pets!

 

[M'Sharak]

By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings!

 

[EnsignRicky]

100% chance that that's just plain silly. Biological wise assery aside, where did these kids come from? Besides, everybody already knows that they met at Starfleet summer camp; Just across the lake from the Federation funny farm.

 

[scottydog]

By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings!

It would be cool if the new movie somehow throws in a line that pays homage to Galaxy Quest.

 

[Duane]

Where did these kids come from? These characters are in their early 20's for the new film. There is absolutely nothing in ST canon which says that Kirk and/or Spock can't have a kid already. Remember David Marcus? Remember Sybok? ST dumps new characters on us out of the blue all the time.

Seriously, though, I was hoping for some genuine speculation about the event invented by the script writers which would explain the bond we see between Kirk and Spock.

 

[blaXXer]

why does it have to revolve around kids? people bond over other stuff all the time, you know?

 

[TeutonicNights]

Or maybe... NERO IS SPOCK'S SON

 

[Michael]

Or maybe... NERO IS SPOCK'S SON

Somehow I'd like that idea.

But Spock already has a son: Zar.

 

[Duane]

It does not have to revolve around kids, but, there does not seem to be a greater love than that between parent and child, thus the sacrifice (even if unforced and out of the control of Kirk or Spock) is the ultimate sacrifice. What else can explain their bond?

I am sure that there is another answer but I'm not smart enough to find it/speculate on it.

 

[the quickening]

Actually, I'm sick of the themes of sacrifice and family members in peril, so I hope you are wrong. Bad enough we are see another time travel conundrum.

 

[section9]

Or maybe... NERO IS SPOCK'S SON

Just Because...Somebody Had to Say It....

SPOCK: Nero, I am your father!

NERO: NOOO! That's not possible!

SPOCK: Logic Dictates that this be so, therefore you know this to be true!