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My Gripes with STID!

They completely f'd up Khan in this movie. Cumberbatch was poorly casted. There was no resemblence to Khan.
 
And name. And profession.

The latter change might well have dictated the other two...

Timo Saloniemi

I remember the other Khan being a condottiere and a dictator.

What was this one's occupation?
Khan was an "engineer of sorts" according to what he said in "Space Seed". He's developing weapons in STID. Not a major career shift .

I thought it pretty clear Khan's claim to be an "engineer of sorts" was a lie in "Space Seed" from before they knew he was Khan, in order that they would show him the ship's technical manuals and basically allow him to case the joint.
 
I remember the other Khan being a condottiere and a dictator.

What was this one's occupation?
Khan was an "engineer of sorts" according to what he said in "Space Seed". He's developing weapons in STID. Not a major career shift .

I thought it pretty clear Khan's claim to be an "engineer of sorts" was a lie in "Space Seed" from before they knew he was Khan, in order that they would show him the ship's technical manuals and basically allow him to case the joint.

Maybe he meant "social engineer." I agree about casing the joint.
 
I remember the other Khan being a condottiere and a dictator.

What was this one's occupation?
Khan was an "engineer of sorts" according to what he said in "Space Seed". He's developing weapons in STID. Not a major career shift .

I thought it pretty clear Khan's claim to be an "engineer of sorts" was a lie in "Space Seed" from before they knew he was Khan, in order that they would show him the ship's technical manuals and basically allow him to case the joint.
I see no reason it has to be lie. He could have studied engineering before going into the dictator biz. Most dictators had previous careers. Doctors. Lawyers. Artists.

He'd need some sort of technical background to understand what he was reading. He wasn't born with that knowledge.
 
^ Being the super-genius that he was, Khan was truly a renaissance man, so I don't think he needed a career in engineering to grasp its principles. Certainly, he had no training in 23rd century engineering and yet got up to speed very quickly. He may have simply picked up engineering along the way or in whatever school for genetically engineered geniuses he went to at a young age.

The other thing is that he says that he "was once an engineer of sorts." Granted, that could mean that his training in engineering doesn't compare to 23rd century techniques, but it could also mean that he wasn't really an engineer, but he meant to show interest in the future, now the present.

True, it doesn't have to be a lie, though.
 
The first thing, is basically they have a cure for death! All they have to do is keep Khan and all his crew frozen but access to their blood and they can stop all death on Earth! (which would come in handy if they go to war with the Klingons)

Something saved Mr. Leslie:

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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Leslie
 
Montalban didn't look a thing like the historical Khan, yet no one ever complained.
 
What "historical Khan," exactly? Montalban looked plausibly ethnic and non-white to his audience (in both versions) and had acting chops. Cumberbatch has one of those things in common with him, not that they made all that much use of it (say it with me now: "No ship should go down withooouuuut herrrr Caaaaptaaainnn..." :lol:)
 
^ If so, Montalban looks quite similar to the "historical Khan," to the point where he could have been the subject of the painting (minus the face-paint and a bit of chin).
 
Yeah, I think there is a clear resemblance between Montalban and the man in the painting. But it's also fudged, as if Marla isn't working from a photograph and perhaps partially even using her imagination. I always liked that touch, of it being similar but not exact.
 
I'm referring to the real Khan Noonian Singh, of course.

I mean, there has to be some important standard by which we're judging resemblances, right? I'm going with the real Khan, who's portrayed in TOS and nuTrek with all the accuracy one would expect of Hollywood.

Cumberbatch's portrayal of Khan is easily as authentic as his portrayal of Turing.
 
Heck, Cumberbatch looked more like the "real" Khan than Anthony Hopkins looked like the "real" Nixon.
 
Khan's a fictional character right? So his appearance is solely dependent on the imagination of the production team, isn't it?

The genders and races of comic book characters change on a semi-regular basis, so I don't see any reason why sci-fi should be different. I think a female Khan would have been awesome.
 
Khan's a fictional character right? So his appearance is solely dependent on the imagination of the production team, isn't it?

The genders and races of comic book characters change on a semi-regular basis, so I don't see any reason why sci-fi should be different. I think a female Khan would have been awesome.
Yes! Or a female Starbuck, even. Oh, wait...
 
Khan's a fictional character right? So his appearance is solely dependent on the imagination of the production team, isn't it?

The genders and races of comic book characters change on a semi-regular basis, so I don't see any reason why sci-fi should be different. I think a female Khan would have been awesome.

"My name is: Connie!"
 
Khan's a fictional character right? So his appearance is solely dependent on the imagination of the production team, isn't it?

The genders and races of comic book characters change on a semi-regular basis, so I don't see any reason why sci-fi should be different. I think a female Khan would have been awesome.

We already have a female Khan, she's called Janeway.
 
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