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My grandmother had a stroke ...

^ They didn't know. I only recently told my mother. As usual she had nothing to say.

The last few years of her life, my grandmother needed a home health aide. She would call me on the phone and tell me about "the baby elephant sitting on her bed", talking about the health aide. Ask me how many times they quit on her. Its a wonder no one ever killed her. I mean that seriously.
 
My own brothers and sister cannot understand why I take care of my mom. She verbally abused me most of my life, cheated me out of money, refused to speak to me for six months when I chased off my abusive stepfather, etc. But when it all boils down, she is still my mother and it is the right thing to do. I shall take care of her until I am physically unable to do so.

Your mom is right about honoring her mother:
American King James Version
Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth. Ephesians 6: 2,3

It's called Stockholm Syndrome.
Good one. Way better then my planned retort of "Oh lol" :lol:


As to the subject at hand, I can say that I don't have crazies on this level in my close family I am happy to say. Sure there are bouts of martyrdom and "woe is me" from my granddad at times, but he's nowhere near this.
 
When, my grandmother is going to rehab today, stay there until she’s better, and then go into a home as she can’t be on her own. And there’s no way in hell my poor mother is going to wait on her hand and foot.

Too mean to die.
 
I do NOT want sympathy from anyone.

The woman is and has always been pretty cold-hearted and downright mean. This is my mother’s mother. Who is 96 years old.

Oh, well.... Glad she's dying then....?


Does anyone else have a family member whose behavior goes beyond merely “annoying” or “bad," without being downright illegal?

Tony Soprano, want to weigh in here?
 
My own brothers and sister cannot understand why I take care of my mom. She verbally abused me most of my life, cheated me out of money, refused to speak to me for six months when I chased off my abusive stepfather, etc. But when it all boils down, she is still my mother and it is the right thing to do. I shall take care of her until I am physically unable to do so.

Your mom is right about honoring her mother:
American King James Version
Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth. Ephesians 6: 2,3

It's called Stockholm Syndrome.
Good one. Way better then my planned retort of "Oh lol" :lol:

I don't think it's funny.

If a person has the psychological strength to handle it--and I would not automatically assume a person is weak because they continue to feel love even if all the "like" and all the trust is gone--then I think there's nothing wrong with continuing to help.

I would not recommend that someone who has been damaged by another help in a way that keeps them too closely connected, though.

Personally, I am going to assume Sector 7 is strong. NOT weak, as some of you seem to assume.
 
^A bigger person than most in my view. Sector7 is a wonderful person in spite of, or because of; or incidental to his relationships with his family. His relationship to God seems to be the most important to him and it offers him strength and grace. Personal relationships with anyone that sustains like that are enviable and should be admired, regardless what you think about organized religion.
 
"Glad"?

Not glad, but I wouldn't be UNhappy. She's been so vicious that it would be a relief to not have her abusing my mom. Just today, she introduced MY mom as HER mom! Now before anyone excuses this with her stroke, she's been trying to convince people that my mom is her sister for literally decades.

Oh, and another example of this pip of a woman--my grandmother was pregnant only once, having only one child, my mom. Yet THREE times, she introduced my parents as "my son and his wife"!!!! WTF?! That is how much she dislikes my mom, her daughter--the woman who insists that my grandmother's meanness will not break her.
 
^A bigger person than most in my view. Sector7 is a wonderful person in spite of, or because of; or incidental to his relationships with his family. His relationship to God seems to be the most important to him and it offers him strength and grace. Personal relationships with anyone that sustains like that are enviable and should be admired, regardless what you think about organized religion.

Exactly; the mockery is so completely unnecessary. As you know, I also believe. Yet I admit I am probably weaker in this area. I am not sure if I would be able to do what Sector 7 is doing.
 
I didn't really see mockery here about religion. I took it as people just disagreeing with the idea that it's the "right thing to do."
 
The critical difference is in your tone. You are stating an opinion. The others were basically pointing and laughing.
 
Let me make this clear: I have nothing but respect for people who have faith. I myself believe in things bigger then us humans and things that are not yet explained by science.

However, I have nothing but distaste and pity for people who live their lives after a book which is essentially an old propaganda piece, and in my opinion should not be taken literally at all in today's society. Jesus' message was basically "be nice to each other, ya'll". That's it when you boil it down. All the other stuff is plain propaganda and written for control once upon a time.


But this is not the topic for any extended discussion of this. If you wish to you can talk more about this with me over PM.
 
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