My friend watches Torchwood but said the 1st Dalek was too slow?
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I must have missed that scene in Parting of the Ways where Jack was told he couldn't give someone else immortality through a blood transfusion. It may be bollocks logic, but no more bollocks than how he was made immortal in the first place.
It's all bollocks really. But I still think Miracle Day was better bollocks than previous Torchwood fare.
I like to think (and hope) that it wasn't just the blood transfusion but in part down to the blessing as well in some crazy morphic field kind of way! A unique circumstance that can't be repeated....gets a bit daft otherwise.
For me Miracle Day probably ranks about level with series 2, better than the first series but in no way fit to lick CoE's boots.
For me Miracle Day probably ranks about level with series 2, better than the first series but in no way fit to lick CoE's boots.
Children of Earth which could have been padded at a two parter, had a nonsense plot of aliens getting a drug out of human children that for some reason they couldn't synthesise (is there a chemical only in children?) and they could control with magic but not swoop down and just nick, and then despite being supposedly undefeatable can be beaten with a fucking radio signal and they'd not thought of it. Miracle Day was bollocks, but surely it was better bollocks than that.
Might just be my inferrance from all the scenes that deal with Jack's immortality. It's discussed as if he is an aberration and one of a kind.
Those are intangible things. It's sci-fi, not fantasy.
Yeah, a lot of it is bollocks science. But there's a difference between the pseudo science necessary for sci-fi and fantasy Disney fucking cobblers like aliens getting high off kids' innocence. As if you need telling.
There's a difference. Time travel, bigger on the inside etc - sciency. Innocence for a drug - bollocks. I mean for fuck's sake, are you having me on?
No, Bones has a good point. He's being his usual intentionally antagonistic self about it, but he still has a good point.
The plot of CoE and the defeat of the 456 was pretty much crap. The appeal of the show was the effect the plot had on the world and the characters. But, if you think about it, it really is pretty stupid. Miracle Day, for all its faults, does make a little more sense.
The plot of CoE and the defeat of the 456 was pretty much crap. The appeal of the show was the effect the plot had on the world and the characters. But, if you think about it, it really is pretty stupid. Miracle Day, for all its faults, does make a little more sense.
Seriously? Miracle Day makes more sense because of vaguely scientific sounding words like morphic fields?
I used innocence as one in a stream of possibilities, and lets face it there are humans here on earth right now for whom childhood innocence is appealing.
Perhaps the 456 can tap into human dreams and children just dream more. Hell maybe kids are just better at surviving the process and last longer than adults, or maybe whatever it is is down to the fact that, and this is science kids, our body chemistry alters when we reach puberty?
I am reminded of the Mitchell and Webb toothbrush sketch...
"But is dirty tongue a recognised issue?"
"Of course not, but when we have a softly spoken Scottish woman in a lab coat mention it people will automatcially believe us."
I used innocence as one in a stream of possibilities, and lets face it there are humans here on earth right now for whom childhood innocence is appealing.
Perhaps the 456 can tap into human dreams and children just dream more. Hell maybe kids are just better at surviving the process and last longer than adults, or maybe whatever it is is down to the fact that, and this is science kids, our body chemistry alters when we reach puberty?
I am reminded of the Mitchell and Webb toothbrush sketch...
"But is dirty tongue a recognised issue?"
"Of course not, but when we have a softly spoken Scottish woman in a lab coat mention it people will automatcially believe us."
You're just fan wanking to give a plausible explanation for getting high off children. I'm not going to say a story is more plausible because you can come up with an explanation for the plot holes. Children of Earth and Miracle Day stand on their own without fan wank or writer interviews.
Besides, it's really more like a 2/10 vs. 3/10 on the logic scale. On one side we have aliens kidnapping children and granting them (near?) immortality in order to get high and on the other side we have a giant crack in the Earth granting immortality to the entire world for some reason. I say Miracle Day makes the most sense -- or, to put it a better way, makes the least nonsense.
Besides, it's really more like a 2/10 vs. 3/10 on the logic scale. On one side we have aliens kidnapping children and granting them (near?) immortality in order to get high and on the other side we have a giant crack in the Earth granting immortality to the entire world for some reason. I say Miracle Day makes the most sense -- or, to put it a better way, makes the least nonsense.
Well personally I think CoE makes the least nonsense. I mean people lick toads to get high, and fan wanky or not there are multiple things you can come up with to fill in the blanks about what the 456 want. I’m not sure the same can be said with regards to Miracle Day.
Even if one assumes they have the same level of plot logic (I don’t but I’m hypothesising here) then the real difference is still that one is a tightly plotted taut five hour thriller whilst the other is a bloated, overly padded mess, enjoyable enough but still obviously written by committee and stretched way beyond it’s initial premise.
Bones. I had a thought, I notice that you really liked the God Complex. Can you tell me why you’ll accept
Or is it just that you feel the execution was better?
Even if one assumes they have the same level of plot logic (I don’t but I’m hypothesising here) then the real difference is still that one is a tightly plotted taut five hour thriller whilst the other is a bloated, overly padded mess, enjoyable enough but still obviously written by committee and stretched way beyond it’s initial premise.
Bones. I had a thought, I notice that you really liked the God Complex. Can you tell me why you’ll accept
an alien who feeds on faith but not an alien who may feed on innocence?
Well, faith is a thing and innocence isn't. Innocence is a lack of not being innocent; it's a lack of knowledge or culpability, or according to another use, the lack of a popped cherry. You can imagine feeding off a particular form of psychic energy or whatever bollocks, but innocence isn't a thing like that.
There's a curious kind of logic there, but I still think the absense of something might make something appealing as well (ie this apple tastes nicer because it isn't rotten).
It still seems that you're picking and choosing which nebulous bollocks you'll accept, but I guess we all do that!
It still seems that you're picking and choosing which nebulous bollocks you'll accept, but I guess we all do that!
Rotten is a thing though. It's rot.
How?
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