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My DS9 Rewatch Odyssey

Excellent review!

Honestly, as I was reading it, I was starting to tear up a bit, knowing this episode as well as I do. I was replaying some of those scenes in my head as I read your review. (Damn it, man! This is not the morning for me to have an ugly cry! :) )

I agree with you on this. A 10+. It's a beautiful masterpiece of television. Damned few hours of tv hit this level.
 
In the context of Star Trek, alternative Jake is somewhat of a tragic figure because he can't mourn the loss of his father. The episode uses sci-fi contrivances very effectively to explore how we deal with loss at many stages of life, repeatedly. However, there is something that I find ironic about the episode,though I would not call it a weakness: alternative Jake wrote three books, earned a doctorate, and contributed to subspace theory. He would have easily been one of the most accomplished regular characters in the franchise, comparable to Data and Jurati.

ETA: Can I say it was absolutely delicious when TV Guide readers voted this the best Star Trek episode?
 
@ananta Your review is aces, however, there are a few things in this episode that detract from it. ("it" being the episode not your review.;))

1) No surprises: As soon as we identify the old guy as Jake Sisko we know that this is an alternate timeline that will be canceled by the end of the episode. We know that whatever the problem is, it's still not solved and won't be until after Jake has told his story. So I guess it's kinda like watching Titanic... We soon know that Sisko will keep reappearing in sort of a dramatic crescendo. And as I said we know that the final chapter will only happen after Melanie has left and of course will consist of a final visit of Sisko. None of this is surprising.

2) Slow pacing. Need I say more?

3) Too many tears.

I still consider this a very good episode but not a masterpiece IMO.
 
I was mildly surprised that the solution to the episode didn't involve a full reset. (shrug)

There may be an argument that many of the best Trek episodes have slow pacing.

I see nothing wrong with an episode that earns tears from the audience.
 
Completely agreed.

"The Measure Of A Man"
"The Inner Light"

"DUET"
"THE VISITOR"
"EYE OF THE NEEDLE"
"DEATH WISH"
"MELD"
"DISTANT ORIGIN"
"SHUTTLEPOD ONE"
"COGENITOR"

None of these have a fast pace, but are considered among the best of their respective shows.
 
Completely agreed.

"The Measure Of A Man"
"The Inner Light"

"DUET"
"THE VISITOR"
"EYE OF THE NEEDLE"
"DEATH WISH"
"MELD"
"DISTANT ORIGIN"
"SHUTTLEPOD ONE"
"COGENITOR"

None of these have a fast pace, but are considered among the best of their respective shows.

I am sorry but I don't agree with that list.

I hated "SHUTTLEPOD ONE", "MELD", "EYE OF THE NEEDLE"

"The Measure Of A Man", "DEATH WISH", "COGENITOR", "DISTANT ORIGIN" are meh.



"The Inner Light", "THE VISITOR", Duet, are more than good.

None of these IMO are among the best of their respective shows.


 
I was mildly surprised that the solution to the episode didn't involve a full reset. (shrug)
...

Are you kidding? Sisko is the only one who remembers the other timeline (which to him lasted only a few minutes) and he's never going to mention it to anyone, ever.
 
Completely agreed.

"The Measure Of A Man"
"The Inner Light"

"DUET"
"THE VISITOR"
"EYE OF THE NEEDLE"
"DEATH WISH"
"MELD"
"DISTANT ORIGIN"
"SHUTTLEPOD ONE"
"COGENITOR"

None of these have a fast pace, but are considered among the best of their respective shows.

I'll certainly agree with Measure of a Man, Inner Light, Duet, The Visitor and Death Wish, and I'll grant you Eye of the Needle and Meld, though I wouldn't put them on the level of the others, but Distant Origin, Shuttlepod One and Cogenitor? Really?
 
"DISTANT ORIGIN" was a great allegory about science and doctrine. Essentially a retelling of Galileo, which is still something that goes on with some people today.

In the case of "SHUTTLEPOD ONE" and "COGENITOR", particularly strong episodes in its first 2 seasons. The former was a great bottle show that showcased Trip and Reed really well, and the latter having a great morality dilemma. I also have a soft spot for Andreas Katsulas, who portrayed G'Kar on BABYLON 5, one of THE best characters in scifi tv.
 
We have no way of knowing whether or not he ever did.

Sure we do. When Jake wrote "Anslem" for the second time, Sisko didn't say that he knew that he could have written it without any alien influence because he already did. If Sisko had shared the other timeline he would have said so. The fact that he didn't prove that he never mentioned it to Jake. As far as Jake is concerned the wormhole "subspace trap" or whatever, never happened. And that goes of course for everyone else, because why would Sisko keep this secret from his own son and tell it to someone else?
 
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In the context of Star Trek, alternative Jake is somewhat of a tragic figure because he can't mourn the loss of his father. The episode uses sci-fi contrivances very effectively to explore how we deal with loss at many stages of life, repeatedly. However, there is something that I find ironic about the episode,though I would not call it a weakness: alternative Jake wrote three books, earned a doctorate, and contributed to subspace theory. He would have easily been one of the most accomplished regular characters in the franchise, comparable to Data and Jurati.

ETA: Can I say it was absolutely delicious when TV Guide readers voted this the best Star Trek episode?

I remember it being voted Trek’s best episode and I felt so vindicated—not least because I was so used to DS9 being ignored or disparaged by so many back then.

I never considered the fact this Jake is actually a very accomplished man, who has achieved quite a bit. It just goes to show, however, achievement or outward success alone means nothing if you don’t find happiness in yourself.

@ananta Your review is aces, however, there are a few things in this episode that detract from it. ("it" being the episode not your review.;))

1) No surprises: As soon as we identify the old guy as Jake Sisko we know that this is an alternate timeline that will be canceled by the end of the episode. We know that whatever the problem is, it's still not solved and won't be until after Jake has told his story. So I guess it's kinda like watching Titanic... We soon know that Sisko will keep reappearing in sort of a dramatic crescendo. And as I said we know that the final chapter will only happen after Melanie has left and of course will consist of a final visit of Sisko. None of this is surprising.

2) Slow pacing. Need I say more?

3) Too many tears.

I still consider this a very good episode but not a masterpiece IMO.

Glad you liked the review :) I can respect you didn’t like the episode as much, I know some people don’t. I found the episode enthralling throughout, and I didn’t once find the inevitable timeline “reset” hampered my enjoyment. The pace worked beautifully for me, one scene logically leading to the next, unfolding the story in both an unrushed yet succinct fashion. Not a single scene felt like padding,and each moved the story on.

I also had no problem with the tears, myself...because it was me that was crying most of them! Part of the reason I didn’t feel a huge emotional connection to TNG was the utter stoicism of the characters. Terrible things could happen to them, and all the reaction you’d get would be a slightly sad gaze into the middle distance before the closing credits. I remember when Jeremy Aster lost his mother in “The Bonding” and Roddenberry insisted he wouldn’t grieve, because humans in the future had evolved beyond such things...I don’t think so, Gene. Human beings will always be human beings and they will always love and grieve. That’s what we are, and sometimes life does involve a lot of tears.
 
“HIPPOCRATIC OATH”

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“...and once you’ve fixed our drug addiction, we want cosmetic surgery. I’m thinking less lizard man...more Chris Hemsworth.”

While nowhere near the level of the previous episode, DS9’s fourth season nevertheless triumphs with another strong episode. Believe it or not, this is only the third time we’ve seen the Jem’Hadar since their eponymous debut in the second season finale (if you exclude some Jem’Hadar ships kicking ass in “The Die is Cast”). Hard to believe, because by this point it feels like we know the Dominion, when in fact some of the basic facts about them have yet to be revealed. This is, for example, the first episode that names their drug, Ketracel White, and we still haven’t seen a Vorta beyond Eris (whose species was unidentified) and Borath (who claimed to be a Founder).

More than anything, I was relieved that we got a Dominion story so soon into the season, because it eased my fear that the Dominion was being edged out in favour of the Klingons, who I find infinitely less interesting and imposing as villains. I was also initially concerned that we might be getting an “I, Borg” style humanising of the Jem’Hadar with Goran’agar in the place of Hugh. To an extent we do, for Goran’agar (ably played by Scott Thompson, who previously appeared as “Tosk” in “Captive Pursuit”) is clearly the most personable and noblest Jem’Hadar we’ve yet encountered. It’s easy to sympathise with his plight and support his attempts to free his men of their addiction. Fortunately, the writers don’t go quite as cute and cuddly as they did with Hugh, and the Jem’Hadar retain their menace and sense of danger. These are not nice guys, and you certainly wouldn’t want to hang out with them—but they’re not “Evil”. They’re just the way they’re programmed to be, and these particular men are doing their best to exceed the limits of that programming, in order to recover a sense of agency and ownership of their own destiny.

It’s understandable that Bashir sympathises with their objective and agrees to help. This, of course, leads to the episode’s core conflict, between the humanistic Bashir and the more pragmatic O’Brien, and it’s beautifully done. The show has done a wonderful job of building up their friendship over the past three years, so to see it crumbling now actually has a fair punch. Ultimately, there’s no cut and dry “right and wrong” to this dilemma, and I can see it from both ways. Ever the idealist, I used to side more with Bashir, but now I can understand O’Brien’s perspective more: these guys are still the enemy and Bashir is basically colluding with them; the consequences of which no one can know. It’s superb, meaty stuff, and I like the ambiguous closing scene where we see just how much it’s damaged their friendship, while also acknowledging that with time it may (and, indeed, will) heal. Kudos to both Alexander Siddig and Colm Meaney, who turn in first rate performances. I wasn’t quite as sold on Rene Auberjonois’ directing this time, though: it does the job, but feels a tad pedestrian.

The episode’s sub-plot shows Worf struggling to fit into an environment that’s about as far from the bright and orderly Enterprise as you can imagine. It was only inevitable that the former Security Chief would eventually come to blows with the obstinate and cranky Odo, and it’s quite fun to see, with Sisko providing a stabilising balance as he gently supports his new officer and assures him that he will eventually fit in. It’s not a hugely memorable storyline, but it’s a necessary and reasonably effective one. Rating: 8
 
A fine review, and a solid episode, so well constructed and integrated. Love your illustrations!
"Hippocratic Oath" is quite different from earlier shows on addiction, “Mudd’s Women” TOS (the Venus drug) and “Symbiosis” TNG (felicium). Hadn’t seen this in so long…I was surprised that Goran’agar chose to release O’Brien and Bashir, and surprised that Odo had a larger arrest plan in place when Worf interfered.
Sort of ironic, that while Bashir and O’Brien argue about the strictly military identity of the Jem Hadar, Bashir insists that O’Brien follow his orders as ranking officer, when it serves his medical purpose. Still, it’s Bashir’s compassionate nature that assures us of their continued friendship, in the end.
 
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“Cardassians”

The claim that Rugal was abused by his Bajoran father is raised, and there seems to be no reason the informant was lying. This ought to have been a big plot-point and one that needed to be expanded upon and/or resolved. But the writers seem to forget it was even raised, which left a very bad taste in my mouth. TNG’s “Suddenly Human” did the very same thing and, to me, it’s just not acceptable. The writers basically don’t know where to go with it, so they just drop it.
Sorry, way behind here. I'm introducing my wife to DS9 this year and we're here now, and I've been reading along with you as we've gone. :D Anyway, my read on the episode was that Dukat was behind this. When Sisko says he can't find any corroborating evidence, and then further that he can't even find the guy who made the accusation, and then later the whole thing turns out to have been an elaborate plot by Dukat to hurt Kotan Pa'Dar, it became pretty clear that Dukat had put Zolan up to making the accusation in order to galvanize the investigation and set the whole thing in motion.

“Melora”

Technically, Melora is not disabled per se, but anywhere outside of her home planet she struggles with the heightened gravity, leaving her largely wheelchair bound.
As for this, I agree that it is not a great episode, but believe that Melora is disabled per se. Not given the medical model of disability as some sort of physical defect, but given the social model of disability as a mismatch between one's needs and one's environment. This episode, like the Barclay episodes, is one that really demonstrates to me how much our vision of the future is a product of its time. It's the 24th century, this utopian future, and we can't do better than a three-hundred-year-old wheelchair design for someone who needs to get around a station without the future equivalent of curb cuts? Don't they have antigrav modules to help with cargo loading and such? Given their tech, shouldn't they be able to create a local comfort zone for people from lower-g environments?

I mentioned Barclay because it seems similar with him: he's pretty clearly neurodivergent. He's brilliant, he achieves results, and yet hundreds of years in the future the workplace still can't recognize or accommodate his neurotype so he keeps getting reprimanded for his disability/inability to conform to workplace norms, rather than being reasonably accommodated in ways that would allow him to contribute without constantly clashing with Starfleet norms.
 
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Sure we do. When Jake wrote "Anslem" for the second time, Sisko didn't say that he knew that he could have written it without any alien influence because he already did. If Sisko had shared the other timeline he would have said so. The fact that he didn't prove that he never mentioned it to Jake. As far as Jake is concerned the wormhole "subspace trap" or whatever, never happened. And that goes of course for everyone else, because why would Sisko keep this secret from his own son and tell it to someone else?

That's evidence, not proof.
 
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