MU Dukat

[DevilEyes]

Most of the characters we saw in the MU were evil/bad counterparts of good guy/gals in our universe. Did they ever show any bad guys in our Universe in the MU. I could imagine a good MU Dukat, Kai Winn, Weyoun, Female Founder...ect. What what that have been like to have seen them being a force for good in the MU ???

Yeah, for him to be REALLY loved by the Bajorans--I mean genuinely so, without his forcing it...that WOULD be amazing and ironic. I'd totally go for it.

Just had a thought...it would be entirely weird if the real universe Kira/Dukat dynamic was reversed...in other words, instead of Dukat having a weird thing for Kira, if Intendant Kira had something of an unhealthy interest in Dukat, and Dukat wanted no part of it.

Now there would be a completely opposite MU: Dukat, beloved of Bajorans, appalled by the advances of the Intendant...

Oh, man...that would be complicated as HELL for Kira if she met an MU Dukat who was actually a decent guy!

Sorry for resurrecting another old topic - but it's funny that I discussed this about a month ago, and I've just come across this old Mirror Universe fanfic written in 1997 that has pretty much all described above:

How The Other Half Lives by Ariana

Of course, as with many old fanfics, the first names of Dukat, Damar, etc. are different, because they were written before those characters were given names in the novels.

And BTW...

There I think it was mostly good ol' titillation. It's been a long time since I've seen that episode, but my vague recollection is that there was still a possible decadence factor. Could be wrong, of course - but either way, I'm pretty sure I'm not about the titillation thing!

Of course it was for titillation. That's one of the reasons why I found most of the MU episodes in DS9 silly - it doesn't really make sense - why would those characters change their sexual orientation in a MU universe? - and the writers did not even think it through, because they were more interesting in providing some Lipstick lesbian routine for the straight male audience to drool over. If you were to take it all seriously, it would imply that sexual orientation can change depending on the environment - and I really don't think the writers ever intended to get involved in that dispute, especially not in that way... and in addition to that, by making the EVIL counterparts bisexual or lesbian, and linking bisexuality to promiscuity and decadence, they also provided some Unfortunate Implications.

 

[SoM]

On the "changed by the environment" thing... they weren't born into the same universe, with the divergence afterward. The divergence between the "Prime" and "Mirror" universes was centuries, or even MILLENNIA, before any of these characters were born. It's a complete freak of the roulette wheel of time* that counterparts of so many characters even exist. That they're not 100% physically and genetically identical would be less than shocking.

[*Of course, given infinite possibilities, you would eventually get one where even characters who couldn't possibly have counterparts - because the people who "should" have been their parents/grandparents/etc were dead, for instance - would still have 100% physical/genetic/personality/background counterparts through some logic which would seem incredibly tortuous. It's still a freak that the "Prime" and "Mirror" universes, with so many counterparts in such different circumstances, somehow became linked though.]

 

[Mirror_Barclay]

The MU was a way to have things happen without explaining them. Want Ezri to kiss a girl? Go for it. Sisko with two disruptors? Vic Fontaine a living, breathing, soon to be dead human? None of it needs explanation.

The same goes for the connection between the MU(s) and our familiar Trek universe. It can't possibly last, and yet it does.

 

[DevilEyes]

The MU was a way to have things happen without explaining them. Want Ezri to kiss a girl? Go for it. Sisko with two disruptors? Vic Fontaine a living, breathing, soon to be dead human? None of it needs explanation.

That's what the MU episodes became, and that's why most of them sucked on DS9. It should not have been like that. MU should have provided a look at a darker side of our Prime Universe heroes, and the possibility that the 'good' characters might have turned out evil in other circumstances (or, in case of 'evil' characters, that they might have turned out good in different circumstances). That's why "Mirror Mirror" was good - it provided a look at a dark version of the Federation. "Crossover" was on this path, but the MU episodes soon lost their way and became nothing by an excuse for everyone to dress flamboyantly, be silly and overact, and for the writers to insert some girl-on-girl action for titillation. Which is sad, because the idea was a good one. Some of the fanfiction about MU is better than most of the actual MU episodes.

Here is a very cool video about the Mirror Universe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBbkoKQRlA

 

[HairOfTheDog]

It'd be awesome if MU Dukat was this super nice guy who still had his family all together and didn't have a bunch of Bajoran "comfort" slaves and wasn't been on genocide.

Then we could all say look! Amazing!

It would have only been fair.