Only when he rides his bike.
Actually with his eyes he looks more like ET when he pulls it up than Elliot.
Mr Robot is Coming.
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Only when he rides his bike.
Actually with his eyes he looks more like ET when he pulls it up than Elliot.
Yes, the eyes, exactly!
I actually censored myself, and didn't say that.
I actually censored myself, and didn't say that.
Well, yeah, but that's because fSociety is being based on Anonymous, who use Guy Fawkes masks to conceal their identity and have made YouTube threats to corporations exactly like that. So they're not imitating V for Vendetta directly so much as they're imitating a hacker collective who based some of their symbolism on V for Vendetta.
The only time anyone acknowledged Mr. Robot's existence was when he stood directly in front of Elliot, which was obviously symbolizing Elliot speaking through him. It's not even subtle in this episode that he's a hallucination.
The whole discussion on the pier was Elliot's own inner struggle about his father's death portrayed through Mr. Robot. Even though Elliot rightly says he was only eight and was just trying to help his dad, part of him still feels guilty and like he betrayed his father by telling his mom his dad was dying. That why Elliot's drug use, though you may find it "distasteful" is an important part of his character development. Elliot is deeply psychologically scarred by his experience with his father, to the point that he needs heroin just to feel balanced.
Yes.
That's borrowing heavily from the anti-capitalist John Carpenter film They Live, especially with Elliot seeing E-Corp's signage as Evil Corp.
But otherwise the plot is very much like Fight Club, right down to the anti-capitalist activist group (run by a guy who hallucinates the founder of the group) which is trying to erase personal debt by attacking the bank's servers. In Fight Club they did it by blowing up several credit company buildings which they had cleared in advance, which was similar to what they were considering here before Elliot offers his alternate plan.
Well, that makes it something of a storytelling cheat to use Slater himself under the mask.
Which is part of the odd tonal mismatch for me. They Live was a pretty broad and goofy film. Is this a dark, dramatic, sophisticated, Fight Club-style psychological drama, or is it something broad and campy? Having any entity in a story explicitly and consistently identified by name as "Evil" feels like something out of a kids' cartoon or an action spoof. It's off-putting in this context.
In what way? It's the exact same conceit they use whenever Elliot speaks through him. Mr. Robot is Elliot's Id given human form: all aggression, amorality, instinct, and confidence. Of course Elliot is going to see that as the projection of himself reading a public video threat against a corporation.
I said they borrowed some of the anti-capitalist message and the changing signage from They Live, not that they're remaking the thing. There's not going to be sunglasses that show you freaky skeleton aliens or anyone declaring they're here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, so I don't get the leap to calling the show campy. There has been nothing goofy or campy about the tone of this show in the slightest, nor anything that would remind anyone of elements of a kid's cartoon.
It seems perfectly reasonable to imagine that someone who is losing his sanity and creating a hallucinatory alter ego that sees everything in simple black and white, good and evil terms would also alter the name E(vil)-Corp in his head.
^I understand perfectly what they're doing and I don't need it explained to me. I just don't think it works tonally. I get what they're trying for, but I think the effect is sillier than they intended.
You should write a report about that.
I'm believing the princes of the Universe look more pretend than that rebel scum, but it's all a double bluff, and every one is probably %100, real.
The Fsociety girl, Carly Chaikin, who played the vacantly inloquacious Dalia on Suburgatory, was on Maron last week as a sultry co-ed waging a stealth affair with her married College professor.
She's getting some heat to her career?
The Fsociety girl, Carly Chaikin, who played the vacantly inloquacious Dalia on Suburgatory, was on Maron last week as a sultry co-ed waging a stealth affair with her married College professor.
She's getting some heat to her career?
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Maybe the whole show is in Elliot's imagination.
Hey... what if Tommy Westphall was in Elliot's imagination???
After the brilliant opening episode, I was a tiny bit underwhelmed by episode 2. But after episode 3, holy mother of pearl, this is the best show on television. The filming style is better than 99% of all movies, let alone tv shows, and the fact that it's got the look in conjunction with the story is a dream come true. The opening 5 minutes tonight blew me away.
But was episode 3 real? For that matter, am I real? You don't know! You could be imagining me!
Shayla and Darlene referenced each other, so they either both exist or they both don't.
The Bartender "ignored" Mr Robot, and so did the ginger he was catcalling 5 minutes earlier.
Angela and Elliot having the same brutal childhood history, might mean that they are both the same person.
HA!
The episode titles all include video format file extensions.
eps1.0_hellofriend.mov
eps1.1_ones-and-zer0es.mpeg
eps1.2_d3bug.mkv
eps.1.3_da3m0ns.mp4
eps.1.4_3xpl0its.wmv
Etc, etc, etc...
The Bartender "ignored" Mr Robot, and so did the ginger he was catcalling 5 minutes earlier.
Angela and Elliot having the same brutal childhood history, might mean that they are both the same person.
HA!
The episode titles all include video format file extensions.
eps1.0_hellofriend.mov
eps1.1_ones-and-zer0es.mpeg
eps1.2_d3bug.mkv
eps.1.3_da3m0ns.mp4
eps.1.4_3xpl0its.wmv
Etc, etc, etc...
Just got caught up on this. So far, this is a brilliant show.
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Yes, Slater is obviously a hallucination/delusion. It's the only explanation for him smoking in a no-smoking zone, the subway of all hardly inconspicuous places, creating a ruckus in the Allsafe office that goes unnoticed, and other hijinks discussed upthread. It would explain why Elliot would continue to associate with the man who put him in the hospital.
It also neatly explains the narrative going on in Elliot's head, with respect to whether to leave the fsociety00.dat file in place. His willingness to go along is explained simply by it being part of his own plan. This also explains how he is somehow the linchpin of fsociety. It might also explain how Darlene knows where Elliot lives and why she calls him names.
By the way, has anyone else picked up on the fact that F is the next letter after E, and that the name "fsociety" has the same lexical format and semantic structure as the name "E Corp"? It's like the plan is to create the next thing after E Corp.
Also, cute how Elliot's last name is Anderson. Ring a bell?
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Yes, Slater is obviously a hallucination/delusion. It's the only explanation for him smoking in a no-smoking zone, the subway of all hardly inconspicuous places, creating a ruckus in the Allsafe office that goes unnoticed, and other hijinks discussed upthread. It would explain why Elliot would continue to associate with the man who put him in the hospital.
It also neatly explains the narrative going on in Elliot's head, with respect to whether to leave the fsociety00.dat file in place. His willingness to go along is explained simply by it being part of his own plan. This also explains how he is somehow the linchpin of fsociety. It might also explain how Darlene knows where Elliot lives and why she calls him names.
By the way, has anyone else picked up on the fact that F is the next letter after E, and that the name "fsociety" has the same lexical format and semantic structure as the name "E Corp"? It's like the plan is to create the next thing after E Corp.
Also, cute how Elliot's last name is Anderson. Ring a bell?
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