Most ridiculous thing about TOS
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Kirk is human malware.
And he beat Spock at chess how many times?
Um, wrong. I *was* in 6th grade in early 1970 and started 7th grade in Sept of 1970 and let me tell you, I was old enough for it to affect me. Plus - age contemporaries at the time had boobs and hips even though I was pre-adolescent until the summer after 7th grade. It affected them. Preserving one's modesty was a pain in the ass. Reaching up into a locker? Fun. Not. Going up the stairs with people behind one? Fun. Not.
Women didn't really wear miniskirts all of the time until the mid-1960s. Minis were still in vogue until around 1975 or so and I was 16 /17 at that point.
Hip huggers came in around 9th grade or so - so 1973ish. They lasted through college (combined with big bells) so that takes one to the late 1970s.
Your times seem off. I never saw minis until the mid-1960s. Pretty much, the early 1960s were a continuation of the 1950s, style-wise.
Micro-minis. To my memory, sizzle dresses (which were so short one had matching panties beneath them) were out when I was in 8th grade, which is, uh, Sept '71-June 72. They only lasted a year, thankfully. Not sure when I got my two (71 or 2), but it was definitely 8th grade.
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I was okay with many of the 'laugh' endings, but it was really off-kilter when like, say, dozens of people just died, and now things are hunk-dory, so let's all have a laugh. That felt wrong.
Must have been the part of the country you were in. I was in Boulder, Colorado, and the miniskirts were on the way out by '71 or so. Completely gone by '73, and didn't come back until the '80s. I know because my sister, who's nine years older than I am, wore them, but wasn't allowed to wear the micro's because our parents were too conservative.
The hiphugger/bellbottom thing had just started around the same time as Star Trek started, and was starting to fade as the mini's had their last gasp. By the time I was in high school in the early '80s, miniskirts were something of a myth that the more daring girls in the school began experimenting with, and the pants didn't show back up until the mid '90s.
The best (worst?) example of this may be the last scene of The Galileo Seven. Everyone on the bridge is practically rolling on the floor. Latimer and Gaetano are dead? Boma almost mutinied? Spock was a horrible officer in a crisis? Bwahahahaha...I was okay with many of the 'laugh' endings, but it was really off-kilter when like, say, dozens of people just died, and now things are hunk-dory, so let's all have a laugh. That felt wrong.
Compare to the appropriately grim endings of COTEOF, or even Catspaw ("no illusion..Jackson is dead.)
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They certainly weren't completely gone by 1973, because I've seen them in many yearbook photos from that year, and in some of the television shows. They were definitely on their way out in 1974.
The captain's love affairs were embarrassing most of the time. Cheesy male fantasies, especially in the third season.
^ Kirk may be overrated in the romance dept. I think Little Joe Cartwright has got him beat (non green skin ladies, anyhow).
As I said, it must have been your part of the country. Where I was, '73 was when they were last seen, until the '80s. YMMV.
The most ridiculous thing about Trek TOS has to be Kirk being able to change his shirt while in the lift during Charlie X! In reality the fact that humanity is travelling out in the stars inside of three hundred years is ludicrous in itself from where we are today but back in the sixties people really believed it would be like or close to that scenario!
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That turbolift car was equipped with a Batpole.
Kirk's alternate uniform was created to highlight two different Kirks in "The Enemy Within" (E5). Then apparently they put the wrap-around tunic into "Charlie X" (E8) for variety, and that was a fiasco because they didn't plan for it properly.
The wrap-around would not return until "Court Martial" (E15), for all of Kirk's scenes in Stone's office. This causes Kirk's shirt to switch back and forth during the episode, but there's room in the plot for him to be plausibly changing clothes so as to be dressed up for the commodore.
Maybe in E15 they felt that literally having gold braid on Kirk's shoulders would give him more authority, more presence, in the meetings with his superior. I wonder if Shatner himself suggested it. He would no doubt have remembered all that gold on the uniform from "The Enemy Within," and he was famously astute at visual drama.
The wrap-around would not return until "Court Martial" (E15), for all of Kirk's scenes in Stone's office. This causes Kirk's shirt to switch back and forth during the episode, but there's room in the plot for him to be plausibly changing clothes so as to be dressed up for the commodore.
Maybe in E15 they felt that literally having gold braid on Kirk's shoulders would give him more authority, more presence, in the meetings with his superior. I wonder if Shatner himself suggested it. He would no doubt have remembered all that gold on the uniform from "The Enemy Within," and he was famously astute at visual drama.
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I heard the reason why the wrap around tunic wasnt used in season 3 was because the Shat had gained a few extra pounds and it didn't fit him right.
They only made velour wraparounds. There were three different versions ("The Enemy Within", "The Doomsday Machine", "The Apple"). They never made a synthetic fabric version for S3.
"Let yourself go, Leela. It's real velour!"
I knew there were three different versions! People here have said there were only two, but I remember the gold braid on the shoulders/lapels going two different directions before they put it on the sleeves. And when they did finally put the braid on the sleeves, they put a black border around the neck, with gold piping around it.
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