Most ridiculous thing about TOS

[T'Bonz]

Nothing wrong with jeans. Jeans was the fad in the 80s for girls and women growing up. I used to count how many holes in the jeans i would find in middle school.
The beauty of being a woman is having a choice of what to wear.

See, we didn't always *have* that choice. For me, in school up through 6th grade, dresses or skirts were *mandatory*, even in winter. You wore dresses to church or schul, out to dinner, etc. The change happened around 1970/71.

It was liberating NOT to have to wear them. My dad made me wear them through 8th grade, when he relaxed his rules. By ninth grade, I rarely wore a dress.

So no mini-skirt love from me!

 

[Tosk]

Slacks were mandatory for my school uniform even in summer. So it evens out.

 

[johnnybear]

My favorite Gerry Anderson series are:
1- Space:1999
2- UFO
3- Thunderbirds

Lovely but I'd have to say for me it would be.....
1-Space 1999
2-UFO
3-Captain Scarlet And The Mysterons
JB

 

[Shaw]

^The purple wigs were a defense against too much static electricity around the controls on Moonbase.

Neither Lt. Gay Ellis nor Lt. Nina Barry had purple hair while on Earth, even when Lt. Barry was serving on one of the SkyDivers. It seemed to be strictly a moonbase thing... and both were the moonbase commanders (with Lt. Barry taking over after Lt. Ellis).


... not that I watched the show all that much.

 

[Marsden]

All I know is we lost a real opportunity to see William Shatner wearing a miniskirt like
Zapp Brannigan in his D.O.O.P. uniform.

 

[uniderth]

Maybe she often had to service machinery that posed a danger of electrical arcs. The suit and wig would be rated to withstand a hit and not melt into her flesh causing severe injury, which regular fabrics will do.

I work in a building with a lot of high-voltage machinery, and the electrician on duty wears special overalls that can withstand arcs and heat blasts.

See! It's science!

 

[johnnybear]

All I know is we lost a real opportunity to see William Shatner wearing a miniskirt like
Zapp Brannigan in his D.O.O.P. uniform.

Shatner in a skirt? What like that guy directing traffic in the TNG pilot?
JB

 

[Warped9]

All I know is we lost a real opportunity to see William Shatner wearing a miniskirt like
Zapp Brannigan in his D.O.O.P. uniform.

Well there was those scenes in the last quarter of "Plato's Stepchildren."

 

[johnnybear]

Oh yeah! Another reason not to respect that episode!
JB

 

[FormerLurker]

See, we didn't always *have* that choice. For me, in school up through 6th grade, dresses or skirts were *mandatory*, even in winter. You wore dresses to church or schul, out to dinner, etc. The change happened around 1970/71.

It was liberating NOT to have to wear them. My dad made me wear them through 8th grade, when he relaxed his rules. By ninth grade, I rarely wore a dress.

So no mini-skirt love from me!

Just because you missed the fad doesn't mean it wasn't important to the people for whom it defined them at the time. If you were in sixth grade in 1970 you were never old enough for it to affect you. Women were wearing miniskirts before you were born, and the fashion trend started to die before you hit puberty. Indeed, if your timeline is correct, you barely got in on the end of the first hip-hugger pants trend, which only affected fashion for adult women anyway (too hard to hug the hips of a little girl that doesn't have any yet).

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

My take on the mini-skirts issue is that they were a reasonable enough concept (especially for the day) as dress uniforms or even at a push ship-board service uniform (restricted to roles like yeoman and desk/console-based watches) but not as an off-ship field uniform or as a service uniform for the more physical roles like engineers, security or support technicians.

 

[Kemaiku]

Scotty could have vaporized the doors with his phaser in about a second, but the time-consuming drama associated with having to cut a complex shape out of the wall would have been lost.

Or engineerings doors are phaser proof, as they should be. What with the likelihood of dangerous energy hitting the other side of it in the event of damage to the machinary, needing a reinforced doorway.

 

[Maurice]

Or engineerings doors are phaser proof, as they should be. What with the likelihood of dangerous energy hitting the other side of it in the event of damage to the machinary, needing a reinforced doorway.

If so, why not make the outside of the ship out of phaser-proof material?

 

[Kemaiku]

Costs waaaaay too much.

 

[Noname Given]

I still wonder why Engineering was built with only one door and why only two people were on duty when the Enterprise was in a critical orbit?

I'll never understand (with just MINUTES remaining before the ship incinerated in an uncontrolled atmospheric re-entry - why they didn't just disintegrate the locked door - as hand phasers were more than capable of it. What was more important, the door, or the WHOLE FRIGGIN' SHIP?

 

[scotpens]

Just because you missed the fad doesn't mean it wasn't important to the people for whom it defined them at the time. If you were in sixth grade in 1970 you were never old enough for it to affect you. Women were wearing miniskirts before you were born . . .

How do you figure that? A sixth-grader in 1970 would have been born around 1959. British designer Mary Quant and French designer Andre Courreges began showing dresses with mid-thigh hemlines in 1964, and they started to catch on with "the girl in the street" a year or two later.

If so, why not make the outside of the ship out of phaser-proof material?

The same reason they don't make the entire airplane out of the stuff the "black box" is made of?

 

[BillJ]

I'll never understand (with just MINUTES remaining before the ship incinerated in an uncontrolled atmospheric re-entry - why they didn't just disintegrate the locked door - as hand phasers were more than capable of it. What was more important, the door, or the WHOLE FRIGGIN' SHIP?

I'm not sure the writers even knew that phasers could disintegrate things at that point in the series.

 

[FormerLurker]

How do you figure that? A sixth-grader in 1970 would have been born around 1959. British designer Mary Quant and French designer Andre Courreges began showing dresses with mid-thigh hemlines in 1964, and they started to catch on with "the girl in the street" a year or two later.

The miniskirt was invented circa 1948. It is defined as above the knee. Mid-thigh and higher, especially the ones T'Bonz complained of, earned the nickname 'micro-mini'. It's interesting (at best, usually) to hear the complaints about the skirts on TOS, because most of them were regular mini's, with the micro-mini's worn only by Uhura, usually. Starfleet didn't issue micro-mini's to their distaff crew en masse until TAS.

And I was responding to T'Bonz. I'd like to hear her response, rather than yours, to be honest.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

The miniskirt was invented circa 1948. It is defined as above the knee. Mid-thigh and higher, especially the ones T'Bonz complained of, earned the nickname 'micro-mini'. It's interesting (at best, usually) to hear the complaints about the skirts on TOS, because most of them were regular mini's, with the micro-mini's worn only by Uhura, usually. Starfleet didn't issue micro-mini's to their distaff crew en masse until TAS.

Dr. Helen Noel wore a very short micro-mini in blue. I think it was shorter than Theiss wanted, almost certainly due to the Roddenberry influence that was described in Justman/Solow.

 

[Tosk]

Yeoman Zahra's gear in Operation -- Annihilate looks pretty mini to me too. But I'll admit, they all seem pretty short to me. What about Yeomans Tamura and Ross?