Most ridiculous thing about TOS

[Phaser Two]

Besides miniskirts, it got to the point in tos that pretty much anyone could take over the ship. Hippies? ! How about the crew letting complete strangers just roam the ship freely without any escort? Bad security if you ask me.

Yup. I mentioned this earlier. From memory - I'll probably miss one or more - the following persons invade and take over the ship:

Charlie
Khan et al.
Norman
Redjac
The Kelvans
Sargon et al. (sort of)
Kara from "Spock's Brain" (sort of)
The Klingons in "Day of the Dove" (partial)
The Scalosians
Gorgan and his kids
Commissioner Bele
The hippies
Janice Lester

Add in all the times that the E was paralyzed by all-powerful aliens ("Arena," "Errand," "Squire," "Return of the Archons," "Who Mourns," "Gamesters," "Spectre," "Requiem," "Plato's (implied)," "Savage"), and you really gain an appreciation for episodes where the Enterprise is shown as a force to be reckoned with and NOT something that can be casually seized and controlled. This is why I enjoy episodes like "Friday's Child" and "Obsession" that may not be fan favorites.

 

[scotpens]

. . . Add in all the times that the E was paralyzed by all-powerful aliens ("Arena," "Errand," "Squire," "Return of the Archons," "Who Mourns," "Gamesters," "Spectre," "Requiem," "Plato's (implied)," "Savage"), and you really gain an appreciation for episodes where the Enterprise is shown as a force to be reckoned with and NOT something that can be casually seized and controlled.

And don't forget "The Naked Time," in which the entire ship was endangered by a lone deranged crewmember locking himself in the Engineering section and singing off-key.

 

[BillJ]

And don't forget "The Naked Time," in which the entire ship was endangered by a lone deranged crewmember locking himself in the Engineering section and singing off-key.

I still wonder why Engineering was built with only one door and why only two people were on duty when the Enterprise was in a critical orbit?

 

[Phaser Two]

And don't forget "The Naked Time," in which the entire ship was endangered by a lone deranged crewmember locking himself in the Engineering section and singing off-key.

Argh, of course! I knew I would forget one. And although the control of the Enterprise was refreshingly not all-powerful or total, I also left off Sylvia and Korob in "Catspaw" and Vaal in "The Apple" as powerful aliens who immobilize or seriously threaten the ship.

 

[Push The Button]

I still wonder why Engineering was built with only one door and why only two people were on duty when the Enterprise was in a critical orbit?

Scotty could have vaporized the doors with his phaser in about a second, but the time-consuming drama associated with having to cut a complex shape out of the wall would have been lost.

 

[BillJ]

Scotty could have vaporized the doors with his phaser in about a second, but the time-consuming drama associated with having to cut a complex shape out of the wall would have been lost.

"The Naked Time" was the seventh production episode. Had we seen the hand phasers vaporize anything up to that point?

 

[Push The Button]

"The Naked Time" was the seventh production episode. Had we seen the hand phasers vaporize anything up to that point?

I'm sorry, I don't remember. My point was that the process of Scotty getting the door open needed to be drawn out, given that almost the entire episode is one big race against the clock.

 

[BillJ]

Looking at the episode list. It looks like the first use of a phaser to vaporize a person would be Ruk in "What are Little Girls Made Of?". Which is episode ten.

 

[BillJ]

I'm sorry, I don't remember. My point was that the process of Scotty getting the door open needed to be drawn out, given that almost the entire episode is one big race against the clock.

It's just fun looking at the evolution of the show. Much like the lack of shuttlecraft in "The Enemy Within".

 

[Phaser Two]

Scotty could have vaporized the doors with his phaser in about a second, but the time-consuming drama associated with having to cut a complex shape out of the wall would have been lost.

I've always handwaved that by assuming that the doors to Engineering are resistant to phaser fire. Or that you don't want to be firing a phaser set on "vaporize" near the engines. Of course, if the former is true it would be nice if Engineering was a little more fortified against takeover attempts to start.

 

[T'Bonz]

Maybe it's because I was a kid and then a young teen when minis were in fashion, but I never found them *empowering*. Frankly, they were a pain in the ass. One always had to watch one's movements lest one flash the undies.

As a woman, I found it more empowering to get to wear slacks when I wanted, not always be obliged to wear a dress or skirt. It was great to wear comfy jeans.

If I wanted to be sexy, that's why low-cut shirts were invented.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

The women of UFO wore some very sexy outfits on the moon. And at the time, it seemed perfectly legit. It's the future, man! Of course women are going to dress better.

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

It's just fun looking at the evolution of the show. Much like the lack of shuttlecraft in "The Enemy Within".

Yes good point. Growing up in the 80s one aspect i loved about the show and movies was being able to see the characters actually grow and age along with the show. Something no other trek has had the luxury to claim. I remember the first time i bought TFF on vhs and taking it home to watch it, loving it because these beloved characters had aged but were still around. The addition of the shuttlecraft in #5 was more a connection to the old show i thought. Even the worst episodes and films at least had the characters which we loved to get us through all the hippies and brainless spocks and eden seeker moments. Watching the show and films evolve was like watching your best friends and family grow haha. Being a reclusive growing up and family doing their own thing it felt good to have these characters and this show around. Watching VI in the theater opening night was the best treat ever. We've seen tos grow through the 60s, 70s, 80s and to an extent the 90s to present day. How many shows can claim that?

Anyhow, the enterprise did get taken over way too easily many times by people who shouldn't have been able to do so with or without miniskirts. Dont u love how kirk was able to change his appearance whenever he had fist fights? I can imagine people on a bet to see how many times they can see the stunt double.

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

Maybe it's because I was a kid and then a young teen when minis were in fashion, but I never found them *empowering*. Frankly, they were a pain in the ass. One always had to watch one's movements lest one flash the undies.

As a woman, I found it more empowering to get to wear slacks when I wanted, not always be obliged to wear a dress or skirt. It was great to wear comfy jeans.

If I wanted to be sexy, that's why low-cut shirts were invented.

Nothing wrong with jeans. Jeans was the fad in the 80s for girls and women growing up. I used to count how many holes in the jeans i would find in middle school.
The beauty of being a woman is having a choice of what to wear. Unlike us guys, i think sometimes women dress to reflect their mood. If you want to go casual with jeans cool. If you want to dress up business attire go for it. If you want to feel beautiful why not? If you going out and want to feel sexy sweet.

Maybe im a guy and dont see the miniskirts as a big deal? I love trek but realize that its a television show (although one i love and i guess a little obsessed about haha). When watching tos on the beautiful blu ray i realise this show was produced in the 60s. No biggie. Its just miniskirts were popular and a fad back then. Nowadays if a woman was to wear one everyone would be ridiculing her and talking bs about her. Prob. Hating and jealous. On second thought they prob. Did that back in the 60s too.

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

The women of UFO wore some very sexy outfits on the moon. And at the time, it seemed perfectly legit. It's the future, man! Of course women are going to dress better.

Never heard of or seen ufo. Interesting. Is it any good? I like the fact that she had more wardrobe to pick from other than the miniskirt. Both are good of course.

 

[mb22]

When I look at those trouser variants for women I'm always left thinking what could be done to make them work better.

- Possibly lengthen the hemline to fall more on the hips.
- Design a better neck opening, possibly making it more like the men's tunic.
- Tone down some of the elaborate hair styles.

All this might have been done if the pants uniform had been used for the major stars (although they got to wear some unflattering wigs as well) and not just extras. One major problem is the wrinkled shrinking velour, which affected the men's uniforms as well.

 

[Redfern]

Never heard of or seen ufo. Interesting. Is it any good? I like the fact that she had more wardrobe to pick from other than the miniskirt. Both are good of course.

Are you familiar with "Space: 1999"? "UFO" was Gerry Anderson's previous series and his first foray into live action, as everything he created earlier involved marionette type puppets. His most famous is arguably "ThunderBirds". Anyway, in retrospect it is entertaining what a series created around 1970 imagined how the "future" of 1980 might appear, particularly the clothing fashions. Lots of Nehru suits for the men and "cheek" length micro-skirts for the women. That's not even considering the vividly purple hair all the female moonbase personnel sported. Those were apparently wigs even "in universe" as we occasionally saw Gay Ellis on earth with conventionally brown hair. No, it was never explained within the series (or the creators) why they wore the purple wigs.

 

[Gary Mitchell]

^The purple wigs were a defense against too much static electricity around the controls on Moonbase.

 

[Warped9]

Never heard of or seen ufo. Interesting. Is it any good? I like the fact that she had more wardrobe to pick from other than the miniskirt. Both are good of course.

I loved UFO back in the day. I got the series set awhile ago and found a lot of it is still good.

If done well I think a reboot of UFO could rock.

 

[johnnybear]

Never heard of or seen ufo. Interesting. Is it any good? I like the fact that she had more wardrobe to pick from other than the miniskirt. Both are good of course.

You've never heard of UFO? Are you from the mirror universe or what? Next you'll be telling me you've never heard of Space 1999 either!
JB