Most Over-Appreciated Trek Film

[Devilpogostick]

I admit, TUC probably gets a spot here too, though I think it was rather solid. Not a masterpiece and certainly had things that I admit still boggles me but otherwise decent enough to enjoy it.

I can imagine its overblown status is due to some factors. One, it was obviously the sendoff film for the original TOS crew and they did justice with it. Second, the fact they got out of that wreck known as TFF probably helps a lot in gettting fond memories.

But still, getting to see Sulu the captain of Excelsior was pretty damn awesome.

 

[Galileo7]

TVH
FC

 

[Mage]

I voted TWOK, primarily because it gets used as the bench mark for all other Trek films, and Khan is cited as the best villain, constantly, even though he shows very little dimension beyond "Revenge!"

This is one of the reasons I also voted TWOK. Khan is such an overrated villian. What superior intellect? Stop quoting Shapespeare and other classics and just kill the damn man already! Far from the best TOS movie if you ask me.

The other was First Contact for me. It felt much more like a generic action blockbuster and less like Star Trek to me. I know, I know... The classic debate on what 'real' Star Trek is.... I know it's real Star Trek, because it's called Star Trek. But, as flawed as it is, Insurrection had more of a TNG feel to it than FC did.

 

[fireproof78]

This is one of the reasons I also voted TWOK. Khan is such an overrated villian. What superior intellect? Stop quoting Shapespeare and other classics and just kill the damn man already! Far from the best TOS movie if you ask me.

The other was First Contact for me. It felt much more like a generic action blockbuster and less like Star Trek to me. I know, I know... The classic debate on what 'real' Star Trek is.... I know it's real Star Trek, because it's called Star Trek. But, as flawed as it is, Insurrection had more of a TNG feel to it than FC did.

I tend to agree, though I'll disagree on Insurrection. Insurrection would have been ok as an episode, but it was overstretched as a film.

 

[Mage]

I tend to agree, though I'll disagree on Insurrection. Insurrection would have been ok as an episode, but it was overstretched as a film.

Oh, I totally agree with that. I simply ment the vibe was more TNG than FC was.

 

[ironnerd]

I figured WoK would be number 1 in this poll which is unfortunate as it is also the best of Star Trek movies. Khan shows his superior intellect and toughness by actually managing to take over a starship with a tiny band of refugees. He lures Kirk and the Enterprise into a trap, and almost pulls it off. Unfortunately for Khan, he is missing some information, and he has gone insane. His superior mind is broken by the loss of his wife and being marooned on a dead planet. He cannot move ahead until Kirk is dead, and the Enterprise is destroyed (he needs to destroy it because he could not have it, and it is a symbol of his failure).

The Motion Picture would have been much better if the pacing had been faster. Voyage Home was fun, but nothing amazing. Undiscovered Country was "pretty good" (I did like seeing Sulu in command of a ship, but there was some "dumb stuff" in there as well). Most of the others were highly "meh". I felt all of the TNG movies felt like expensive episodes, though First Contact was pretty cool. ST:V and The Kelvin stuff are simply dreadful.

 

[Jedi_Master]

The Voyage Home.
It's not a bad film, but I think the goofiness covers an extremely thin and nonsensical plot.

 

[ConRefit79]

For me it's a toss up between TVH and Star Trek 2009. Both were done well for pure entertainment value. But nothing about them draws me back for repeat viewings. Can't remember the last time I saw the TVH. In fact the ending is the best part for me.

I've seen TFF more than either of them. Despite it's many flaws.

 

[Noname Given]

I'll also add my vote for : 1) STIV:TVH and 2)STVI:TUC

I did like parts of STIV:TVH, but overall I've never understand why so many really like this particular film more than most other in the TOS era feature film series.

I like STVI:TUC less then STIV:TVH; and I really don't see the love this film gets as the plot holes and many character aspects (like say Dr. McCoy suddenly knowing nothing of Klingon anatomy or medical aspects when back during the TOS he was able to immediately identify a Klingon agent in "The Trouble With Tribbles" after a quick cursory Tricorder scan.)

DSFDF I guess.

 

[sbk1234]

I voted The Voyage Home. Yes, it's a good movie, but I don't think it's as good a film as most people give it credit for. I think much of the positive feedback it got was because it took place primarily in a contemporary setting and focused so heavily on humor, therefore making it more accessible to general audiences.

 

[Tenacity]

I'd go with the most recent movie Beyond, strip away the special effects and it doesn't really have much to say.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Number 3...it brings back Spock but its cheesy and poorly made.

 

[Trekfan12]

I think the ST movie is overrated. I know it's the first movie in the Kelvin timeline, but I couldn't get my mind around the whole new universe. I guess you could say I can't stomach watching Vulcan getting destroyed. Earth's sister planet and Spock's home (or seeing his mother die) I am a TOS fan down to my core.

 

[TheAdmiralty]

Into Darkness. I know there was fan backlash, but it still got really good reviews and general audiences seemed to like it. Personally I think the second half of the movie was a complete mess and can pretty much be summarized with "and then they shot their way home". Lifting the death scene from WoK word for word, planting it in their movie, and then expecting me to have the same emotional response was insulting as well.

 

[Vger23]

Into Darkness. Lifting the death scene from WoK word for word, planting it in their movie, and then expecting me to have the same emotional response was insulting as well.

HOW DARE THEY!!??!??!!!

 

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

TVH - Sure it was a fun romp, but it gets way too much praise. It's a goofy time travel flick, but nothing much else, catering to the more casual viewers.

Also, the first Abrams reboot movie. I really don't get the appeal. It (and the subsequent ones) don't feel like Trek to me at all.

 

[Voth commando1]

I'd say Wrath of Khan-I've not watched the TOS movies recently but I don't think it was the most amazing thing Trek cinema could ever aspire to.

First Contact while totally awesome I think needed a bigger cgi budget, and the dialogue needed a a little work, also McFadden shouldn't have dyed her hair blonde.

 

[donners22]

Judging from that thread, TMP.

It reminds me of a David Gerrold quote:

Instead of really just acknowledging that it was a bad movie, they tried to explain that it was wonderful and you were an idiot for not understanding it. It was wonderful to watch them fuck their minds over to explain away a bad movie.

As Harlan Ellison pointed out in his wonderful review in Harlan Ellison's Watching, it's a mishmash of four TOS plots with an ending ripped from another film (one writer dubbed it "The Forty-Million Dollar Fuck").

In tone and presentation it desperately wants to be 2001, so much so that it sucks the life out of the characters who provided much of TOS's appeal. It's no wonder the cast spoke so poorly of it, and how it was untrue to the show. Speaking of the cast, Collins and Khambatta were both awful (plus the former turned out to be a sex offender, which makes rewatching it even more awkward...).

A dishonourable mention to Wrath of Khan.

It's a fairly entertaining film, but it's bizarre to watch people jump all over other Trek films for bad science and plot holes when this one is riddled with them. I was also never a fan of Khan being the ranting over-the-top villain; his cold menace in Space Seed was so much more impactful.

 

[Relayer1]

Beyond, without a doubt.

What I wanted after the good but flawed '09 and the less good STID was a film by someone who 'got' Trek. Who could inject some authenticity into the reboot and produce a truly cohetent and satisfying entry into the Kelvinverse. Hopes were high with a change in the creative team, especially Pegg writing it.

What we got was another flashy but shallow blockbuster still full of handwaves and thin plotting. In short stylistically indistinguishable from the previous two...

 

[MacLeod]

Wasn't Pegg a rather late addition to the writing team for Beyond?