It is better than the alternative. Can you imagine Marina Sitis in that role?
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It is better than the alternative. Can you imagine Marina Sitis in that role?
Okay. So we invent a time machine and...
I agree with you both about these characters. Though I really thought just about the entire cast of Voyager was casted badly. Robert Picardo as the Doctor and the later Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 were the best casted.
This isn't really a miscast, per se, but I thought Robin Curtis' Saavik was so different than Kirstie Alley's Saavik that they should've renamed the character completely.
And why was she on Genesis with David anyway? Last I checked she was a trainee in Command school. It would've made more sense if it was a different character in STIII.
And why was she on Genesis with David anyway? Last I checked she was a trainee in Command school. It would've made more sense if it was a different character in STIII.
It would seem that I'm in the minority, however, thought that Kate Mulgrew did a very credible job in playing Capt Janeway. I will admit at times I was wondering "What the $%$%^& is she thinking" however, all things considered I liked the way that she represented herself as a Star Fleet Capt.
The miscast I think of is Admiral Nechayev, to me she never seemed to have a grasp on what was going on. And at times she had that "Deer in the headlights" look. And when she lectured Pickard, on this or that issue, I was thinking, she would probably make a competent Ensine, or mabey a Lt. Commander, she was DEFINITELY not Admiral Material...
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The miscast I think of is Admiral Nechayev, to me she never seemed to have a grasp on what was going on. And at times she had that "Deer in the headlights" look. And when she lectured Pickard, on this or that issue, I was thinking, she would probably make a competent Ensine, or mabey a Lt. Commander, she was DEFINITELY not Admiral Material...
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I totally agree with this.
Avery Brooks has to be the most miscast and overrated actor in Star Trek history. I never detected any emotion from him.
I could not possibly disagree with you more.
Brooks' acting is just fine. He just doesn't OVERact like most of his fellow starship captain's have tended to do. People seem to mistake subtlety for non-acting.
Okay, to some fans I've just committed blasphemy, but when I first saw that scene it just oozed Shatner-style cheese. I love Brooks performance most of the time, I think he is a great actor, but that one performance never worked for me, and it's the reason why I don't rate Far Beyond the Stars as highly as everyone else does.
Other than that, Brooks IS the Sisko.
^ I agree, though I think at that point, Benny was supposed to be losing his mind a bit, wasn't he? Been a while since I saw that, but if so, it kindof makes sense. But I liked PT better than FBTS.
I'm sorry to say this, it cuts me deep, and I shouldn't say it... but while Clarence Williams III looked and did the leg-work for a Jem'Hadar perfectly... someone should really have done something about the way he talked... that was Shatner-esque in my opinion. It took a million times of watching it to see it cuz I love the episode... but now that I see it... that and him resetting the weapon to max. power... just...
I'm sorry to say this, it cuts me deep, and I shouldn't say it... but while Clarence Williams III looked and did the leg-work for a Jem'Hadar perfectly... someone should really have done something about the way he talked... that was Shatner-esque in my opinion. It took a million times of watching it to see it cuz I love the episode... but now that I see it... that and him resetting the weapon to max. power... just...
I would bet that Avery Brooks name would have NEVER come up as the most miscast charactrer in Trek. Every Series has had it's best episode TOS was probably "City on the Edge of Forever" TNG "Best of Both Worlds"
DS-9 In my humble opinion would be "In the Pale Moonlight" this was
Trek and Brooks at it's best. Brooks as most Miscast Character, you may have put Voyagers original XO as the best actor, we saw him for all of 25 seconds, in Trek History. No offense intended this is a subjective thread and we are all entitled to our own opinion, but Brooks as most miscast...NO WAY !!!!!!!
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DS-9 In my humble opinion would be "In the Pale Moonlight" this was
Trek and Brooks at it's best. Brooks as most Miscast Character, you may have put Voyagers original XO as the best actor, we saw him for all of 25 seconds, in Trek History. No offense intended this is a subjective thread and we are all entitled to our own opinion, but Brooks as most miscast...NO WAY !!!!!!!
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To be fair to Kate, she was given crap to work with. The writers didn't know what to do with her, as if the idea of a 'woman captain' was just too bizzare for them to grasp. She went from Kirk, to Bitch, to Slut, to Mom in less time than it took list all the Voyager episodes that didn't rely on technobabble for their plots.
I heard that Kate complained once that she wasn't allowed to 'take over' the role (something other actors on Voy and Ent complained about) and I think that really hurt her. Janeway NEEDED a direction, and never got it.
Completely agree. To the person who said that Brooks never displayed any emotion, watch this episode. I honestly believed that Sisko was furious enough to kill Garak. Andrew Robinson and Brooks at the top of their game, that's a force to reckon with!
I'd even say that Brooks was great in Far Beyond the Stars, except for the mental break-down scene. I just can't see beyond the fact that it is Brooks acting in that scene rather than Benny falling apart.
As for most miscast... David Warner in TFF. He deserved a far better role than that. I forgot he was in it, and when I rewatched it all I could think was that it was a waste. At least he got some good characters in TUC and Chain of Command.
Wow! Got it in one!
Worst! Casting! Ever! Unless you count the warp 10 salamanders...
They really needed to find an excuse why Alexander Siddig could have had that role instead. Frak the stupid Feddie paranoia about genetic enhancements.
But I think Melvin Belli in a mu-mu rates a pretty close second place. And makes the salamanders look sexy by comparsion.
Third place goes Bernie Casey who played Sisko's friend in "The Maquis" two-parter. He could teach a forest about being wooden.
Cecily Adams as Ishka (Moogie). Granted most Ferengi can be particularly annoying (Wallace Shawn's Zek is especially dweebie and grating), but there's something about Adams acting that was completely incongruous with the part of Ishka. Andrea Martin's version had an endearing element to it. But there was nothing warm or engaging about Adam's Ishka. Always seemed that she was reading a script dry rather than creating a character.
Yeah...that one and "Rapture"--same problem. Most of the time I've liked him, but the overacting there never worked.
It's my theory that he went with what works on stage (which is generally acted much more loudly and dramatically than on TV), but didn't adapt it to the venue in question.
Among the regulars it's definitely Terry Farrell. She is not a good enough actress for this part. Most of the time Jadzia was just a pretty girl trying to seem smart, it was hard to see all the wisdom and experience Dax was supposed to have.
As for guest stars - I found the actress playing Ardra in TNG's Devil's Due completely unconvincing. She lacked the charisma and seduction the character was supposed to have. The episode was lousy on its own, but she made it unbearable.
As for guest stars - I found the actress playing Ardra in TNG's Devil's Due completely unconvincing. She lacked the charisma and seduction the character was supposed to have. The episode was lousy on its own, but she made it unbearable.
Surely that's not a fault of the actress? The writers themselves didn't have a clue what to with Dax until Blood Oath came about.
I think Scott may be better-suited for a different sort of character, and I say this as someone who generally likes his work. Just look at Quantum Leap and the voice-acting he did in Cats Don't Dance, for example--he seems to play a sort of a good-guy everyman, kind of naive at times. I'm not sure he was really comfortable conveying the kind of grit a Starfleet captain is going to have. (Either that or the role wasn't written in a way that would suit his skills.)
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