Morgan Bateson

[Infern0]

I think is an underutilized (sp?) character in Trek Lit.

I have read ship of the line and thought he had a great part in that story, but I think he could do with a couple of books of his own, he comes across as a very interesting individual, a great man, who is proof that greatness will prosper no matter where it is placed.

Trek Lit writers, take notice, more of Morgan Bateson please!

 

[Lanny77]

Bateson actually has a number of cameos throughout Trek Lit. He briefly appears in The Captain's Daughter, Strange New Worlds VI and VII, novel Spectre, Watching the Clock and even gets a couple of pages in Destiny about his defense of Vulcan from the Borg.

I liked to see more of Bateson, but different from ship of the line. I just can't stand that book

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'd like to see more of the Ship of the Line senior staff. Although (as Christopher will no doubt point out) they weren't true to the crew shown in "Cause and Effect", I found them to be an interesting bunch. Especially George Hill!

I also really liked the Bozemen/Bateson/Starbase 2 mythology Diane Carey crafted.

(although, yeah, Ship of the Line is a flawed read. Especially Picard wasting page after page watching TOS on the holodeck!)

 

[DS9Continuing]

To be fair I've never read him in any Lit appearance, and I'm only going from his on-screen appearance in "Cause and Effect." But based on that, I really don't see what people would find so fascinating about him. Yes, he's out of his time, but that's happened to dozens of other characters too.

Unless the Lit authors have done something amazing with him which I haven't read, then I have to conclude that the only reason for such fascination is because he was played by Frasier. I'm willing to be corrected / educated though.

 

[ToddCam]

I hated the crew from Ship of the Line. All white human men. Completely unbelievable, even in the 23rd century. Not part of my "headcanon" at all.

 

[Captain Robert April]

He did have an appearance in one of the Shatner novels, I forget which one. But the scene was a big reunion/convention of other folks who were temporally displaced from other time periods.

And there was that story in DC Comics about his debriefing following the near collision with the Enterprise-D.

 

[Christopher]

I was hoping to give Bateson a bigger role in Watching the Clock, but Dave had to go and transfer him to a different ship in Destiny, so I had to promote his first officer into the role I'd initially thought he would play.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I hated the crew from Ship of the Line. All white human men. Completely unbelievable, even in the 23rd century. Not part of my "headcanon" at all.

I recall them all being men, but sexism and racism never occurred to me.

In a true equal future, crews would be picked for their abilites, not to be equal percentages of men and women of every ethnicity in the galaxy. If anything I'd call the SoTL Bozemen command crew a statistical fluke. In a huge Starfleet, thousands of ships strong, such things would happen.

 

[ronny]

I recall them being all men even though on screen we see at one and probably two female bridge crew. Just a terrible book. My least favorite ST book of all time for a number of reasons.

 

[Christopher]

^Onscreen, there were two women and one man seen behind Bateson on the bridge. In Watching the Clock, I identified them as Lt. Parvana Whitcomb, Lt. Cmdr. Claudia Alisov, and Lt. Lloyd Boen.

 

[ToddCam]

I recall them all being men, but sexism and racism never occurred to me.

In a true equal future, crews would be picked for their abilites, not to be equal percentages of men and women of every ethnicity in the galaxy. If anything I'd call the SoTL Bozemen command crew a statistical fluke. In a huge Starfleet, thousands of ships strong, such things would happen.

Could, maybe. Would? Sorry. Don't buy it. Too absurd.

Humans are just one of dozens of species in the Federation. Even if we assume that Starfleet is predominantly human, how many humans would be white? Given that more than half of Earth's current population is Asian, and whites believed to be a minority in the United States by the middle of this century, and the birth rate declines in Europe, I can't imagine whites being that common. Cut that in half for men only, it's damned bizarre. If it were to happen, yes, it would be a fluke. But one that would be noticed, I think. Even in the color blind 23rd century.

Either way, ignoring the "quota" argument, this book was written in modern times. I expect my Trek to be a little more diverse, especially (outside of gay people) how it has always been ahead of the curve with diversity. Diane Carey may have thought it was ok. I don't.

 

[T'Ressa Dax]

With Carey's apparent love of sailing ships, I did wonder if she was trying to make them over into old time sailors or something, in which case there'd be an all male crew... :;shrug::

 

[Christopher]

^Given that Ship of the Line opened with a poem that was apparently a tribute to a vessel that Carey personally sailed on, I've always wondered if her version of the Bozeman bridge crew was based on her real-life fellow sailors.

 

[captcalhoun]

given carey's tenuous grip on the reality of Trek, nothing would surprise me.

 

[JD]

For anyone who's curious, here is the page from Trek Core with the pictures of the Bozeman's crew. They're in the last couple rows. From the way she's standing next to him, it looks like one of the women is possibly his first officer.

 

[Christopher]

For anyone who's curious, here is the page from Trek Core with the pictures of the Bozeman's crew. They're in the last couple rows. From the way she's standing next to him, it looks like one of the women is possibly his first officer.

Yes, and the fact that her collar is command white would seem to confirm it. That's the character I called Parvana Whitcomb, and it took some maneuvering to explain why a lieutenant would be the ship's first officer (though I was able to find an explanation that meshed quite nicely with The Captain's Daughter). The redhead is Alisov, and the blurry guy in the background is Boen.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Is there any impetus to write more stories about Bateson? It would be cool to see captain Frasier in action again.

 

[Paris]

Is there any impetus to write more stories about Bateson? It would be cool to see captain Frasier in action again.

Agreed. I'd like to see more Morgan Bateson

 

[iguana_tonante]

I hated the crew from Ship of the Line. All white human men. Completely unbelievable, even in the 23rd century. Not part of my "headcanon" at all.

While I noticed the all WASP crew, my concern was mostly the they were assholes.

With Carey's apparent love of sailing ships, I did wonder if she was trying to make them over into old time sailors or something, in which case there'd be an all male crew... :;shrug::

Not to mention her other apparent love.

 

[Idran]

With Carey's apparent love of sailing ships, I did wonder if she was trying to make them over into old time sailors or something, in which case there'd be an all male crew... :;shrug::

Not to mention her other apparent love.

Eh? What's that?