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Practical sets, extras, and props, including practical mechanized droids rolling past, provided an aura of reality that CGI just flat out hasn't been able to match. This is one reason why I prefer the original cut of the 1977 film to the special edition. It just better feels like you're really there. Call it an ineffable je ne sais quoi, if you like.

Yeah, the whole feel is different. One of the things that was so cool in 1977 -- even if you weren't conscious of it -- was the way Lucas used the documentary style framing, like everything you're seeing is normal. There are monsters and vehicles and robots all over the place that barely get in the frame, or move through without any attention paid to them. SF movies hadn't been like that before, they generally put the fantastical and spectacular stuff front and center for everyone to marvel at. After the CG stuff was put in SW, the emphasis in those shots, too, seemed to shift toward emphasizing the effects.

The old Mos Eisely felt more like a near-ghost town in a Spaghetti Western: Not much going on in the street (too hot) but full of menace anyway. The new one seems more like a travelogue. And that's aside from the absolutely awful editorial decision to undercut Ben's serious word of warning by following it with a pitiful Jawa sight gag.

Those are all great points. Well put.

As a footnote, George Lucas does have film credits on a documentary film, Gimme Shelter. He was with the crew that filmed the Altamont concert, but his camera jammed and none of the footage in the final film was his [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000184/#CameraandElectricalDepartment, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimme_Shelter_(1970_film)[Sabulis, Tom (5 November 1989). "Rock Nightmare Twenty Years Ago Altamont Marked the End of An Era". The Chicago Tribune: p. 5.]].
 
Yeah, the whole feel is different. One of the things that was so cool in 1977 -- even if you weren't conscious of it -- was the way Lucas used the documentary style framing, like everything you're seeing is normal. There are monsters and vehicles and robots all over the place that barely get in the frame, or move through without any attention paid to them. SF movies hadn't been like that before, they generally put the fantastical and spectacular stuff front and center for everyone to marvel at. After the CG stuff was put in SW, the emphasis in those shots, too, seemed to shift toward emphasizing the effects.

The old Mos Eisely felt more like a near-ghost town in a Spaghetti Western: Not much going on in the street (too hot) but full of menace anyway. The new one seems more like a travelogue. And that's aside from the absolutely awful editorial decision to undercut Ben's serious word of warning by following it with a pitiful Jawa sight gag.

Exactly. There was something very matter-of-fact about all the droids and creatures inhabiting the worlds of ANH and ESB, where in the prequels every CG effect calls attention to itself and seems to show off for the camera.
 
Although what I think would be interesting would be how they would handle the decades of "Expanded Universe" stories and "canon" and other elements that most fans have "Accepted as canon" into account.

It will get ignored, much like your post was for the last page and a half.:lol:
 
Giantfreakinrobot is now repeating the Harrison Ford/Episode VII report so unless the entire thing is a masterful red herring of some sort to give a PR boost to Ford's currently moribund career or things change in the future and he eventually backs out I guess I'll just stick to the assumption that Han Solo will be in at least one of the next three episodes.

Since Harrison under most conceivable scenarios would be the most difficult of the OT actors to get to agree to return, that opens the door for everybody else to jump in so long as their health allows them. Mark, Carrie, Peter, Anthony and Kenny, Billy Dee....even Denis Lawson (Wedge) would be fun to see again as an aging Rebel Alliance veteran with some sort of honored status in the New Republic.

"Of course we should listen to Antilles....he knows what he's talking about. He survived both Death Stars, you know!"
 
Kenny didn't have much to do at times during the Prequel films but George kept him around for certain closeups he felt would be better served with Baker inside an astro droid shell. Nah, he probably wouldn't get much work in Episode VII but if he's still around when shooting commences I'd be very stunned if he wasn't signed to return.

After all, it wouldn't feel like a complete SW film without "....and KENNY BAKER as Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)" flashing across the screen during the closing credits.
 
Baker makes a difference. Even if none of his takes made it into the final film, I'd want him in there to keep the bar of R2's behavior up at a certain level.
 
Kenny didn't have much to do at times during the Prequel films but George kept him around for certain closeups he felt would be better served with Baker inside an astro droid shell. Nah, he probably wouldn't get much work in Episode VII but if he's still around when shooting commences I'd be very stunned if he wasn't signed to return.

After all, it wouldn't feel like a complete SW film without "....and KENNY BAKER as Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)" flashing across the screen during the closing credits.

And even then, it appeared he wasn't really strong enough anymore to make Artoo wiggle and shake like he did in the OT.
 
I think they would sign him (and Daniels) on anyway just so their names would appear in the credits. It would not be a waste of casting dollars, and as you said it's worth it to see their names in the credits.

At this point, they would use Daniels only for his voice. Something seems wrong about shoving a 70 year old guy into a suit like that.
 
At this point, they would use Daniels only for his voice. Something seems wrong about shoving a 70 year old guy into a suit like that.

I dunno. Depends on the old guy. Some 70 year olds absolutely deserve that treatment!

Although what I think would be interesting would be how they would handle the decades of "Expanded Universe" stories and "canon" and other elements that most fans have "Accepted as canon" into account. Since really while Clone Wars is sorta kinda sticking to SOME of the established EU canon, they're also making up stuff as they go along too. Or simply redefining things.

I think it would be best if they adhered to EU continuity as best they can and only deviate from it when they absolutely have to.

So even if they go back and do a Pre-OT movie with Obi-Wan on Tattooine they could always acknowledge that Mos Isley was an "armpit" compared to Mos Espa and that's why Obi Wan took Luke there in the first place in the OT even though clearly in the PT Mos Espa was the "happenin" spot" - could also be that if he was trying to stay off the grid, the armpit town of Mos Isley was a better chance, smaller bars, fewer folks around - although at the same time - it almost backfired since it was so friggin small. How long did it take the Stormies to find them? A couple of days at most? That's pretty damn fast for a non Core world.

The Storm Troopers weren't tracking Obi-Wan. They were tracking the droids. It couldn't have been too hard to follow the droid tracks to nearby sandcrawler tracks. Afterwards, it's merely a matter of torturing Jawas.

See this is the problem. A lot of fans think and are convinced the Emperor's inner circle aren't human. Others don't, and the reference materials are often little help and conflict with one another if you've spent much time with them.

We need more consistency among the printed reference materials, online sources and the Expanded Universe to keep things a little straighter than they usually are.

Naw. Continuity is easier when everything's fast & loose.
 
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