Moore and Braga vs. Orci and Kurtzman -- Who Do You Prefer?
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They did. It was called "Star Trek."
Brannon Braga's writing has been very stop-start, sometimes it goes off a cliff other times it looks great. Moore has some good moments but he was mostly a disaster, the killing off Kirk and his temper tantrums against cast and crew only add to his downfall
His post Trek has been very sluggish
BSG handed to him on a plate by Singer
despite a great headstart himself and Eick drive it into the ditch
then there is "virtuality"
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/06/virtualitys-low-ratings-dim-prospect-for-renewal/
"Generations" had some ok moments but it mostly sucked IMO
Orci and Kurtzman are far from perfect, they did the tv series Alias which is the most boring fashion show posing as a scifi bond style thrriller
but compared to the other guys Orci and Kurtzman are great!
His post Trek has been very sluggish
BSG handed to him on a plate by Singer
despite a great headstart himself and Eick drive it into the ditch
then there is "virtuality"
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/06/virtualitys-low-ratings-dim-prospect-for-renewal/
"Generations" had some ok moments but it mostly sucked IMO
Orci and Kurtzman are far from perfect, they did the tv series Alias which is the most boring fashion show posing as a scifi bond style thrriller
but compared to the other guys Orci and Kurtzman are great!
I went with Moore and Braga, then got a little nervous when I saw that it specified movies. Fortunately they did First Contact, so I'm happy with my vote.
Moore and Braga did All Good Things, Generations and First Contact, all of which are much better than this movie, in my opinion.
I prefer noone...
They've all done things, Trek related or not, that are good and things that suck.
They've all done things, Trek related or not, that are good and things that suck.
Aye.
O&K have yet to do a Trek thing that sucks in my opinion, but then, they've only done one Trek thing.
Conversely, I've never seen anything by them outside of Trek I liked at all, and even their Star Trek script has a sort of move-fast-think-later approach to plot developments. No matter, they sincerely hit this one out of the the park and the result was a movie that had me grinning if I wasn't too busy geeking out.
That said I'd put both groups on about an even level. O&K may have screwed up outside Trek, but Moore & Braga have exceptionally disparate quality - they actually wrote "All Good Things" and Generations simultaneously, believe it or not.
If Moore & Braga were more consistently good - and/or if, when seperate, Braga was a more consistently good writer - then things would tip the other way for me. Moore would definitely be the preferred writer from this pick of four - "Tapestry", his stint on DS9 and all that good stuff.
However, this could easily shift on the basis of future Trek outings. Is this movie an aberrant blip in O&K disappointing me, or is it going to be a homerun stretch for these guys? Time will tell, eh?
i'll take Braga and Moore since they didn't write transformers
The Orci & Kurtzman duo beats RDM alone and of course Braga by himself, but if anything, Braga and Moore have proven that they work great together. So yeah, i prefer BB&RDM to O&K.
Wait, one thing just occurred to me...
this poll is basically:
VS
Well, not really true. Moore and Braga pitched the story for M:I:2, but final script was written by Robert Towne.
It's really hard to say. Moore and Braga had much less creative freedom than Orci and Kurtzman. They had to work under Rick Berman and the suits at Paramount who were scared to do anything too daring with Star Trek, lest they kill the golden goose. They also had to bend to the demands of Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner, who would throw a fit if the script didn't properly service (and by "service" I mean "fellate") their characters.
It would have been interesting to see what they could have come up with without all that interference. It may or may not have been better than Orci and Kurtzman's work, but I would like to have seen them get the chance.
It would have been interesting to see what they could have come up with without all that interference. It may or may not have been better than Orci and Kurtzman's work, but I would like to have seen them get the chance.
I think that's too much of a conspiracy theory there. That's not interference, that's collaboration. It happens in every series, in every movie. It also happened in this movie.
Too soon for me to judge. The next movie will decide it for me. I loved NuTrek, but i will want to see more meat in the next film....
The best argument I've heard yet.
I too vote Moore and Braga. They know Star Trek and gave it depth and complexity during their years of service to the fanchise. Abrams and his cohorts on the other hand gave us a generic summer blockbuster with "Star Trek" stamped on it.
Hmmm, perhaps, but I do agree with George Kirk to some degree. I believe there is a difference between working under a benign, geeky, yet professional and creative type like Abrams, and answering to a bigoted pompous jackass like Rick Berman.
Wow, you must know him personally.
No, just by reputation.
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