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Monolithic cultures in Star Trek lit?

SpaceLama

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One of the criticisms of Star Trek over the years, has been that certain cultures seem overly mono-cultural - they seem to contain little diversity on an interstellar scale involving trillions of citizens, where in real life, there are hundreds of tribes and ethnic groups in countries like Russia, China or India.

The intent in TV episodes is to be able to do an episodic allegory in 45 minutes - so the Klingons are simplified into Soviets, or 'noble savages', etc, for dramatic purposes - but the downside to this, is that it could maybe lead to simplified quasi-rascist depictions of foreign cultures - exactly what Star Trek attempted to avoid by having Americans, Africans, Europeans, Russians and Japanese on the bridge of the original Enterprise.

This hasnt always been the case - there have been times when Star Trek has made certain cultures appear very diverse and realistic. But, I've just been reading through a ton of Trek lit, and have notaced some pretty singular and un-insightful depictions of alien cultures, in certain cases - perhaps for fear of violating canon, or perhaps because introducing popular real-world steriotypes was seen as compelling.

Sometimes, its a case of name dropping things from TV Trek, but not making any original additions. For example, constantly comparing Romulans to hawks and raptors, or mentioning people from past episodes as national heros, is akin to an English person walking around and contantly talking about Lions, Roses and Oak Trees in every conversation - yes, they are cultural symbols, but I doubt very much, they are thought about with such freqency by the average Romulan.

What is your view on this?
 
It's an easy trap to fall into, and sometimes a shorthand that's hard to avoid if you have limited room to explore the alien cultures. But there have been works of Trek Lit that have made a point of depicting cultural diversity within alien species. In the Mere Anarchy miniseries, we made a point of giving the planet Mestiko a wide range of diverse cultures with different values, languages, and traditions. In Ex Machina, I portrayed the Fabrini as a society with multiple different subcultures and interpretations of their religious traditions. KRAD's Klingon Empire: A Burning House showed a range of different subcultures within Klingon society. I'm sure there are others.
 
From what I have just been reading about Mere Anarchy, I may have to give it a buy, because thats exactly what I am looking for. Also Ex Machina, since I havent read much set around TMP. Good call on KRAD's Klingon novels too - I was thinking of them as a good counter-example of this trend.

Unfortunatly, the Romulans seem to be perticularily short-changed, especially following Nemesis - although I did enjoy the 'Vulcan's ____' series, I feel I have not encountered many perticularily deep depictions of what is presumably, an interstellar power with hundreds of colony worlds, member species, starbases, cultural and scientific institutions, thousands of years of history, etc.
 
Unfortunatly, the Romulans seem to be perticularily short-changed, especially following Nemesis - although I did enjoy the 'Vulcan's ____' series, I feel I have not encountered many perticularily deep depictions of what is presumably, an interstellar power with hundreds of colony worlds, member species, starbases, cultural and scientific institutions, thousands of years of history, etc.

I've seen several hints of great diversity among the Star Empire's many worlds. :) "Catalyst of Sorrows", in the Lost Era series, made a point of mentioning how varied Romulan worlds are, economically, culturally, technologically, and how some are actually more socially and technologically advanced than Romulus itself, which has the greatest and most restrictive Tal Shiar presence. One interesting hint at diversity explored by the "Vulcan's ....." books you mention, as well as elsewhere, is the ratio of women to men in the military. I've noticed that some Romulans speak of "women, children and elders" as noncombatants, whereas other Romulan characters in the same book will speak of "children and elders". I always assumed this was- or interpreted it as- evidence that on some Romulan worlds women were warriors alongside the men, whereas in other regions it was a male-only role.
 
I havent read the Lost Era novels for ages - but I do remember them being good.

Although I said I enjoyed the Vulcan's .... novels, they are actually examples of ones that I thought simplified Romulan culture somewhat. Its one example of a book that takes some minor figure from TV, and makes them into a pivotal character in the entire cultural history of a thousand year old empire, with billions of citizens (sigh). I just didn't wanna be harsh and single those books out for criticism.
 
One thing that might be interesting, could be if authors wrote fiction from the perspective of a Romulan or Klingon or Cardassian - and I don't mean something obvious and over used like an epic of Kahless.

Rather I mean, it could potentially flesh out alien cultures a lot more, to show what a 19th century Andorian crime fiction writer would pen. Or a Klingon martial arts romance. Or a Romulan horror novel.

By their nature, they would force the author to invent a lot of diverse aspects of alien culture - what would the 'old docks' look like in an Andorian town - what would a Romulan Lovecraft conjure up in the mines of Remus.
 
The novels A Stitch in Time by Andrew J. Robinson and Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers do absolutely wonderful jobs of fleshing out Cardassian society, including giving us insights into its internal conflicts. Day of the Vipers gives us a very vivid, detailed look at Bajoran society, too, with its numerous castes and the intersections and conflicts of the Militia, church, and Chamber of Ministers in the years leading up to the Occupation.
 
The Cardassians were probably also the most fleshed out culture on TV, owing to DS9 being focused on Bajoran and Cardassian society.
 
^Don't forget about the Klingons. They were fleshed out more in DS9 than they were in either TOS or TNG. DS9 was actually really good with giving us insights into various races. The Dominion also comes to mind...
 
One thing that might be interesting, could be if authors wrote fiction from the perspective of a Romulan or Klingon or Cardassian - and I don't mean something obvious and over used like an epic of Kahless.

Rather I mean, it could potentially flesh out alien cultures a lot more, to show what a 19th century Andorian crime fiction writer would pen. Or a Klingon martial arts romance. Or a Romulan horror novel.

By their nature, they would force the author to invent a lot of diverse aspects of alien culture - what would the 'old docks' look like in an Andorian town - what would a Romulan Lovecraft conjure up in the mines of Remus.

Ooooh... :cardie:

I WANT THAT!!!! :eek:
 
One thing that might be interesting, could be if authors wrote fiction from the perspective of a Romulan or Klingon or Cardassian - and I don't mean something obvious and over used like an epic of Kahless.

Rather I mean, it could potentially flesh out alien cultures a lot more, to show what a 19th century Andorian crime fiction writer would pen. Or a Klingon martial arts romance. Or a Romulan horror novel.

By their nature, they would force the author to invent a lot of diverse aspects of alien culture - what would the 'old docks' look like in an Andorian town - what would a Romulan Lovecraft conjure up in the mines of Remus.

Ooooh... :cardie:

I WANT THAT!!!! :eek:

Me too!

I would love to see Reflections on a Crimson moon or a Cardassian enigma tale.
 
The Bloodwing Voyage series attempts to examine Romulan culture - and it's a pretty interesting series. I just finished the omnibus, which apparently includes all but the last book in the series, and I'm still trying to decide how much I like it, but it's definitely interesting. It does show some diversity in lifestyle, but not so much in culture (some, just not that much) - but it explains why there isn't much real cultural diversity and does that quite well.
 
One thing that might be interesting, could be if authors wrote fiction from the perspective of a Romulan or Klingon or Cardassian - and I don't mean something obvious and over used like an epic of Kahless.

Rather I mean, it could potentially flesh out alien cultures a lot more, to show what a 19th century Andorian crime fiction writer would pen. Or a Klingon martial arts romance. Or a Romulan horror novel.

By their nature, they would force the author to invent a lot of diverse aspects of alien culture - what would the 'old docks' look like in an Andorian town - what would a Romulan Lovecraft conjure up in the mines of Remus.

Ooooh... :cardie:

I WANT THAT!!!! :eek:

I've often thought an anthology of various Trek aliens' works of fiction would be a nifty idea.
 
Hopefully, it would act as a force for the diversification of alien cultures - one wouldn't have to violate on-screen canon, by coming up with new regions of Qo'noS, Cardassia, Romulus, Andoria, Vulcan, Tellar, etc. On the contrary, I am suprised how many novels don't take this approach. Instead of name dropping Romulan ale or Klingon coffee at every oppertunity, I really don't know why people don't occasionally make enigmatic references to Klingon tea houses, or something to that effect. In my own imagination, the Klingon homeworld has diverse ruins, resembling those in Cambodia, India, Indonesia, etc - as well as minorities who still practice Klingon paganism, or non-Kahless philosophies.

Klingons and Cardassians are fairly well fleshed out, but Romulus in perticular seems to suffer a lot - in the series, it was sometimes hinted as being a suprisingly diverse culture on the inside - many Romulans on TNG and DS9 were depicted as having a very pragmatic or cosmopolitan attitude - but some works have simplified them a great deal.
 
You really might want to try the Rihannsu: The Bloodwing Voyages omnibus, then, SpaceLama. As I mentioned above, I'm still not 100 percent sure how I feel about it - parts I really liked, others...not so sure - but it was definitely a good read, and they (Diane Duane and Peter Morwood) did fill out Romulan culture a lot.
 
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Although I think the point is valid there is a question of what technology will do to a culture. Henry Ford introduced the Model-T in 1908. We have only had mass automobiles for less than 100 years. Lyndon Johnson was complaining about the effect of television on politics in 1968. The World Wide Web is not 15 years old yet and how many unexpected effects have we had already?

So what would 200 years of the internet do to any culture? Russia has so many ethnic groups because they were so isolated for so many centuries. It takes time for the interaction via technology to break the differences down.

Stalin said, "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?"

What would Stalin say about the internet?

psik
 
I have to recommend John Ford's The Final Reflection as a fine exploration of Klignon culture for a Klingon point of view. He develops quite a rich, if not diverse, culture.

The first two Rihannsu books are really good for a sense of Romulans.

I'd really love a Shran/Andorian culture novel.
 
Just keep in mind that it is a very different culture from the one presented in TNG, DS9, Voy, KE, ect. I haven't actually read it so I don't know what it's like, I just know it's very different, and that some people actually like it better.
 
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