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Monogamy, non-Monogamy, Polyamory

CaptainStoner

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I've been pondering these concepts a lot lately. It seems to me that, when it comes down to it, humans couple for periods of time, but that lifelong monogamy is neither realistic, or necesarily healthy. Although it is what I desire, personally, not having experienced a good long period of it myself.
But in the "real world", what I tend to see is people practicing non-monogamy within a monogamous paradigm, which almost always leads to lying and cheating.
This leads some real credence to the concept of polyamory, but only when practiced with the utmost integrity and honesty, for both the physical and emotional protection of everyone so involved.

What are your thoughts?
Given human nature, is it perhaps better to assume that your main beloved will eventually have another partner somewhere down the line, and not try to "control" them in such a way? Would you rather be in the dark about it, or keep it honest and open?
I feel there are also deep gender differences in these feelings. As a man I find the thought of tolerating another male extremely difficult. Ontogony recapitulates, and all that jazz.
I also think individual circumstance is a key factor(s). In other words, I don't see much point in throwing out one pardigm (monogamy) for another (polyamory) - what is the point of freeing one's mind, only to shackle it to another concept?

But perhaps there shouldn't be such a heavy emphasis on the standard love & marriage ideology. Does this not lead to people marrying and attempting to force themselves into something convoluted, because it's the "thing to do"?
 
I don't have any problem with people who do this, I just know I could never handle it myself. I don't think it's being possessive or controlling, I just want to focus all my attention on *one* woman. Monogamy might not be healthy for everyone, but it is for me. It's got nothing to do with human nature, just personal preference.

That being said, I really hate it when people act all high and mighty and think that it's somehow better, more sophisticated or evolved or 'cultured' to have more than one partner. I don't look down on them for having more than one, so I'd appreciate it if they don't look down on me for having *only* one.
 
I believe in monopolygamy, you should marry one group of people only, or the mustached guy from the Parker Brothers game.
 
That being said, I really hate it when people act all high and mighty and think that it's somehow better, more sophisticated or evolved or 'cultured' to have more than one partner. I don't look down on them for having more than one, so I'd appreciate it if they don't look down on me for having *only* one.
Yes, I find that ridiculous also. It may be a reaction to negative feedback, but even so, what works for some clearly doesn't work for others. What is the point of saying one is all about respect, and open-mindedness, whilst looking down their noses at those who don't feel as they do.

When a man and a woman meet and find true love they can stay together forever. It's the best thing going.
I assume you mean, stay together in monogamy, and I too share this "ideal". The problem as I see it, is trying to force that ideal into situations where it shouldn't apply, perhaps most often in younger people. Family, perhaps even conservative, pressures to marry, when it isn't the right person for that. Sometimes it can take a long time to figure this all out.
 
I've been in both successful and unsuccessful poly relationships. My experience is that it is neither better nor worse, nor more or less likely to prevent unfaithfulness.

Marian
 
neither better nor worse, nor more or less likely to prevent unfaithfulness.

That sounds like a sensible attitude.

See, the thing that keeps me from even considering it is, well, probably a fair amount of jealousy on my part. I can't conceive how it could be possible to be in love with more than one person at the same time. I would be afraid that she'd love this other guy more than me.

Stoner, I agree there is pressure to marry. I was on the receiving end of it, myself. (My last GF was very insistent, to the point of lunacy. I wasn't ready, but she didn't care.) But that doesn't mean that there's something wrong with the *concept*, or that there's one answer to it. I might not have been ready for marriage, but that was my own fault, not anyone else's. If there's any more practical application of the concept of "your mileage may vary" than this very thing, I'm not aware of it...
 
Polyamory can indeed work, same as any other relationship type. Establish whatever rules and expectations all involved have at the beginning, stick with them, and communicate, communicate, communicate!


...and what Marian said!
 
My wife and I are polyamorous. It's not an easy thing for other people to understand, but we make it work, and we've been together since we were kids.
 
As a man I find the thought of tolerating another male extremely difficult.

It's my experience that things like that can be changed, if you're willing to work at it. I'll give you a personal example:

I've always been a supporter of gay rights as an intellectual abstract, yet the first time I saw two guys making out--in a movie--it made me very uncomfortable. But I really liked the rest of that movie and watched it a lot. At first I would fast-forward past the makeout scene, but after awhile I realized I was being a hypocrite and started forcing myself to watch it. Each time it was a little less squicky. After maybe a dozen viewings, it no longer bothered me at all.

That feeling of discomfort isn't set in stone. It's really just unfamiliarity. Once it's no longer unfamiliar, it goes away.


Marian
 
That feeling of discomfort isn't set in stone. It's really just unfamiliarity. Once it's no longer unfamiliar, it goes away.

I hope you're not suggesting we all try this poly stuff. Because as I said, I know I couldn't do it. There are certain things I don't have to try first, to know I wouldn't be able to handle them. This is one of those things.
 
My wife and I are polyamorous. It's not an easy thing for other people to understand, but we make it work, and we've been together since we were kids.

You're one of the FEW people I can think of where people who knew each other since childhood can get togather intimately.....most chicks often are disgusted when a long time friend shows interest in the in a non-playtonic way.

My self....I been through too much crap over the past decade to even consider monogomy. Me and my first girlfriend, who was a sexy intersexed girl (she had both parts down there. :cool:) were an item, but we still had some extras on the side.

My favorite time was when me and Melinda (that was my IS girlfriend's name...though she liked being called Mel) were at a party....she was going down on a girl...and quite well, judging from the other chick's....reactions, and I walked to her and asked, "Where did you learn to be that good?" she looked at me, winked, grinned and said, "Girl scouts!" :D God, she was awesome. But yes, monogomy is not my thing....a vanilla lifestyle might be fine for most people, but not me. :bolian:
 
When a man and a woman meet and find true love they can stay together forever. It's the best thing going.
When two people meet and find true love there is nothing to stop them from staying together forever. That has nothing to do with where anyone parks their sausage.

You're conflating three things, love, staying together and sausage parking. You can have any one of them singularly, you can have a mix of any two, or you can have all three.

And there's nothing about any of those possibilities that requires monogomy.
 
I would think in a relationship with more than one partner, jealousy would rear its ugly head.
 
That being said, I really hate it when people act all high and mighty and think that it's somehow better, more sophisticated or evolved or 'cultured' to have more than one partner. I don't look down on them for having more than one, so I'd appreciate it if they don't look down on me for having *only* one.
Yes, I find that ridiculous also. It may be a reaction to negative feedback, but even so, what works for some clearly doesn't work for others. What is the point of saying one is all about respect, and open-mindedness, whilst looking down their noses at those who don't feel as they do.

When a man and a woman meet and find true love they can stay together forever. It's the best thing going.
I assume you mean, stay together in monogamy, and I too share this "ideal". The problem as I see it, is trying to force that ideal into situations where it shouldn't apply, perhaps most often in younger people. Family, perhaps even conservative, pressures to marry, when it isn't the right person for that. Sometimes it can take a long time to figure this all out.

Yep.
 
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