Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quinto?

[CaptainStoner]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

I felt like I was seeing Spock throughout Quinto's performance. However, this is the first work I've seen Quinto in.

But he seemed to inhabit a believable Spock sort of range. His voice is far softer, and higher pitched, than Nimoy's sonorous baritone, so there are some technical limitations. Thankful that he didn't try to sound deeper.

Actually, Quinto's tone for Spock resembles Commander Data a lot - the tone of voice in particular.

Overall I feel that the nuTrek Spock is acceptable, but lacking the deeper, darker tones of Nimoy's - and not just vocally.

 

[Tom Servo]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

He actually IS Spock, just as much as Nimoy is Spock.

Oh is he? How so?

Because the company(ies) that makes Star Trek says he is.

 

[Shazam!]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

The way it has been presented, we were basically watching an alternate universe. Why should we care about that? Because we're told to? Because they have a film? We may as well have had a Mirror Universe film.

By that logic, why should you care about any story? Or TV series? Or set of characters?

You meant to say any story set in an alternate universe with alternate versions of characters, right?

 

[Freman]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

I knew I was watching Spock the second Nimoy showed up in the movie.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

I bought Quinto as Spock immediately; there was no transition period or need to get used to him.

By the end of the movie, I realized that I would henceforth think of Quinto as the "real" Spock. And Nimoy's Spock has always been my favorite fictional character of all time.

I do think it would have been more helpful not to have Nimoy in the same movie though. At times it DID make Quinto feel like a bit of an imposter-- which is a shame, because he does such a great job making the character his own.

That's what sealed the deal for me; that Quinto could be in a movie with Nimoy playing Spock yet (arguably) steal the character right out from under him. (I know that plenty of folks would take issue with that notion.)

Hopefully in the sequel he can really take ownership of the character like Pine did.

Pine's the one who still hasn't quite convinced me, probably partly due to the fact that his Kirk isn't intended to be the same person as the original, but Spock at least started off as the same Spock (and probably will diverge more and more in subsequent movies because of the timeline changes to his story introduced in this movie).

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

He actually IS Spock, just as much as Nimoy is Spock.

Oh is he? How so?

Because the company(ies) that makes Star Trek says he is.

Yeah wow.

With that kind of argumentation even a black guy with blue hair and NO pointy ears would have been just as much Spock as Nimoy.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Oh is he? How so?

Because the company(ies) that makes Star Trek says he is.

Yeah wow.

With that kind of argumentation even a black guy with blue hair and NO pointy ears would have been just as much Spock as Nimoy.

Not a good argument. Paramount can say that Simon Pegg is Scotty till they're blue in the face, but I ain't buying it. Quinto passes muster as Spock because the nailed the casting and the writing.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Quinto passes muster as Spock because the nailed the casting and the writing.

A point I completely disagree with. Especially when you consider he shares the same movie with Nimoy... so either Quinto is miscast as Spock, or Nimoy is. Voice, face, height, posture, gesture, way of speaking, nothing fits.

Pine has an excuse, because he is the only actor playing an adult Kirk.

You shouldn't cast Clint Eastwood and Ben Affleck for playing the same character at different ages in one movie either.

If a child at 10-15 and an adult and 30-40 play the same role, it's almost irrelevant, because the changes are so drastic. But not so much between a 40 year old and an 80 year old.

 

[Tom Servo]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Because the company(ies) that makes Star Trek says he is.

Yeah wow.

With that kind of argumentation even a black guy with blue hair and NO pointy ears would have been just as much Spock as Nimoy.

Not a good argument. Paramount can say that Simon Pegg is Scotty till they're blue in the face, but I ain't buying it. Quinto passes muster as Spock because the nailed the casting and the writing.

Well the point is that whatever Paramount says is gospel...thats how it works. Quinto is Spock...thats that. You can scream about till you are blue in the face.

Whether you like that version of Spock is another thing. However, I agree with Temis that he NAILED Spock. He got it perfect. I cannot see how he could have done better.

Its bad now. When I think of Spock, I almost think of Quinto Spock, not Nimoy Spock.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

What exactly did he get perfect?

Because that's the issue. Nimoy defined the character. What's perfect?

 

[Tom Servo]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

What exactly did he get perfect?

Because that's the issue. Nimoy defined the character. What's perfect?

He got the mannerisms, the feel, and the tone of the character correct. He played the Spock character, not as a copy of Nimoy, but his interpretation of the character, a character with different life then the original Spock.

I cant see how anyone could NOT like what he did with the character.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

He got the mannerisms, the feel, and the tone of the character correct. He played the Spock character, not as a copy of Nimoy, but his interpretation of the character, a character with different life then the original Spock.

I cant see how anyone could NOT like what he did with the character.

So Tim Russ played an excellent Spock, too...


Sorry, I just have to completely disagree with you.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

He got the mannerisms, the feel, and the tone of the character correct. He played the Spock character, not as a copy of Nimoy, but his interpretation of the character, a character with different life then the original Spock.

I cant see how anyone could NOT like what he did with the character.

Good points - especially when we consider that this is a parallel universe. nuSpock didn't have the childhood of TOS Spock, nor did any of the characters. They are different men, of the same potentiality perhaps, but different. Nature vs. Nurture.
It might have been nice to have found an actor with a deeper voice, but Quinto does fine. He doesn' seem quite as "alien" as the original Mister Spock.
But we can credit much of his human-side integration to a certain Communications Specialist.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

How did the Kelvin's destruction affect Spock's childhood?

 

[Devon]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

If a child at 10-15 and an adult and 30-40 play the same role, it's almost irrelevant, because the changes are so drastic. But not so much between a 40 year old and an 80 year old.

Quinto is actually only 32, for the record. With Nimoy being 77.

 

[Devon]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

So Tim Russ played an excellent Spock, too...

Tim Russ played Tuvok.

 

[JarodRussell]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Are you a computer?

 

[Shazam!]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Tim Russ played Tuvok.

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[barnaclelapse]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

A lot of his interactions with Kirk drew me in quite nicely. The best thing though was when you see him meet Spock Prime. I watched them both and could honestly believe Quinto as a younger version of the old Vulcan he was facing.

That's what was so cool to me.

 

[DevilEyes]

Re: Moments where you knew you were seeing Spock and not Zachary Quint

Quinto passes muster as Spock because the nailed the casting and the writing.

A point I completely disagree with. Especially when you consider he shares the same movie with Nimoy... so either Quinto is miscast as Spock, or Nimoy is. Voice, face, height, posture, gesture, way of speaking, nothing fits.

Pine has an excuse, because he is the only actor playing an adult Kirk.

You shouldn't cast Clint Eastwood and Ben Affleck for playing the same character at different ages in one movie either.

If a child at 10-15 and an adult and 30-40 play the same role, it's almost irrelevant, because the changes are so drastic. But not so much between a 40 year old and an 80 year old.

How so?

His height doesn't fit? His face doesn't?? His posture etc.?

So, does that mean you'd prefer an actor who was not the same height as young Nimoy, does not have the same build, bone structure, extremely similar features, does not walk like him, has a different posture?

Or are you saying that Quinto does not have the same height, build, similar features etc... But why would you say that, when it is obviously not true?

You shouldn't cast Clint Eastwood and Ben Affleck for playing the same character at different ages in one movie either.

If a child at 10-15 and an adult and 30-40 play the same role, it's almost irrelevant, because the changes are so drastic. But not so much between a 40 year old and an 80 year old.

No, you shouldn't, because they look nothing alike.

You should cast people who look incredibly similar to each other. Like Nimoy and Quinto.