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MLB Offseason 2018-19: SIGN KIMBREL AND KEUCHEL YOU FUCKS

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Fun theory. How much of that game did you stay up for? It wasn’t thrilling or intense. After a point, there just wasn’t enough of a functioning lineup on either side to end it, so it went on forever.
 
Overtime Hockey is a totally different animal. Actual sudden death. And you aren’t randomly missing all your best players because of a line change 3 hours ago
 
Fun theory. How much of that game did you stay up for? It wasn’t thrilling or intense. After a point, there just wasn’t enough of a functioning lineup on either side to end it, so it went on forever.
How much of the triple overtime Predators/Sharks playoff game did you stay up to watch a few years ago? I mean, a closer example would be the 2000 Flyers/Pens quintuple overtime game but games of that length happen so rarely in any sport that it wouldn't be reasonable to go back that far.

If all we care about is speeding up the game and getting that overtime over quicker, why not do what they do in the minors and have a runner start on second base?
 
Fun theory. How much of that game did you stay up for? It wasn’t thrilling or intense. After a point, there just wasn’t enough of a functioning lineup on either side to end it, so it went on forever.
I stayed up for the whole thing and loved every minute of it.
 
And seriously fuck the draft advantages for winning teams and penalizing losing teams. If they did that, we'll keep getting the same winners over and over.

So nothing would change? ;)

I'm in favor of the DH rule. I'm not against some kind of pitch clock in general but if you do that you need some kind of compensatory rule to make sure runners don't abuse it toward the end of the count and make huge leads, and going down that road can easily lead to as big and confusing a rulebook as the NFL.

Three batter minimum is an absurd rule and also one that will require followup rules to prevent the fake arm injury to get an earlier sub. Don't know the logic behind the mound size change but messing with the game balance to artificially affect the scoring patterns is a terrible idea.

Draft advantages for winning is silly. Big market teams have enough of an advantage already. Who the hell even proposed that? Someone on the Red Sox or Yankees?

If baseball needs a rule change it's to get rid of the stupid single elimination wild card play in game. Or maybe a complete restructure so being in a strong division isn't as huge a penalty.
 
How much of the triple overtime Predators/Sharks playoff game did you stay up to watch a few years ago? I mean, a closer example would be the 2000 Flyers/Pens quintuple overtime game but games of that length happen so rarely in any sport that it wouldn't be reasonable to go back that far.

If all we care about is speeding up the game and getting that overtime over quicker, why not do what they do in the minors and have a runner start on second base?
Not sure how else to say that Hockey /= Baseball. Playoff Hockey is amazing, and Overtime Playoff Hockey is that on steroids. 18 innings of baseball is nowhere near the same experience. Especially played under NL rules, because the lineups were totally shot at that point. Never really had more than 2 decent guys in a row, so it was just going to go until a pitcher made a mistake and someone grooved one to put it out of our misery, or someone ran out of pitchers and put an outfielder on the mound. Exactly how people want championships decided, right? At least in other sports, the players you're using in those overtime situations ARE the stars/good players. So even tired, your best options are there and the quality is better. Baseball seems to be the only one where you take players out for real and can't put them back in.

Want to see Hockey where if you pull the goalie for an extra attacker, you can't put him back in? If you make it look like you're going for it on 4th down in the NFL and then run the kicker out there, want to see him throw the ball for the rest of the game? No, that's dumb. But it's how MLB works.

Also, could argue that FGs from a Quarterback would be the best kinds of FGs; why not make him kick instead of the place kicker? Or even more fun, only the NFC will do it, and then the AFC will just figure it out in the Superbowl. makes perfect sense
 
I stayed up for the whole thing and loved every minute of it.

You must have been drinking a LOT more than I was. Also, aren't you on the West Coast? It ended at like 4am in New England. It was more fun at 1am than it was at 4am here, for sure.

But anyway, it's really hard to say that the whole thing was good. I remember the 13th inning having drama, but I don't remember another inning where literally anything happened. How many of them even had a baserunner or two? 10th and 13th innings look like it.

Almost all of that extra inning game was strikeouts and groundouts, people trying for HRs just to end the game but being too beat to put a good swing on it.

It was interesting, and an experience, but not a good product. Then again, it almost definitely helped Boston win, as they just sacrificed Eovaldi completely and saved the rest of the bullpen, whereas LA ran everyone hard and their pen blew the next game from overuse...
 
If baseball needs a rule change it's to get rid of the stupid single elimination wild card play in game. Or maybe a complete restructure so being in a strong division isn't as huge a penalty.

That sounds good. Actually, I'd shitcan the divisions completely and just have AL and NL. Then you can do better seeding, and there's some sort of reward for a crazy long 162 game season. Nuts that the Yankees had a great record and had to play a 1-game play-in game because they are in an artificial distinction of a division, whereas teams with 8-10 less wins get a home game because they won a weaker division. Wild Card used to fix it, but the second one broke it again by making it a play in game
 
I love the Wild Card games and how the Divisions are set up. It makes for interesting pennant races where it' s actually important to win or else you can find yourself out of the playoffs after one game. That one game then being like a game 7 right from the start. As for the part of giving a advantage to teams with winning records I think that is also a stupid idea but I think the idea is eliminate tanking. Winning will be important or else you will find yourself in a hole because you can't bring in the draft picks to keep it going thus maybe teams will start spending again like crazy in free agency just to keep up. Granted if your small market team it means if you loose you can almost never catch up but maybe they want that. They want to kind of rig the system making sure a team like the Yankees or Dodgers are always in the World Series for ratings.


Jason
 
You must have been drinking a LOT more than I was. Also, aren't you on the West Coast? It ended at like 4am in New England. It was more fun at 1am than it was at 4am here, for sure.
Nope, I'm East Coast, too. A part of me did want to go to bed but the rest of me really enjoyed the thrill of such a long game and talking about it with others on social media.
 
I love the Wild Card games and how the Divisions are set up. It makes for interesting pennant races where it' s actually important to win or else you can find yourself out of the playoffs after one game. That one game then being like a game 7 right from the start. As for the part of giving a advantage to teams with winning records I think that is also a stupid idea but I think the idea is eliminate tanking. Winning will be important or else you will find yourself in a hole because you can't bring in the draft picks to keep it going thus maybe teams will start spending again like crazy in free agency just to keep up. Granted if your small market team it means if you loose you can almost never catch up but maybe they want that. They want to kind of rig the system making sure a team like the Yankees or Dodgers are always in the World Series for ratings.

Jason

This doesn't do that, though. If the Red Sox are hot, the Yankees have to struggle to get into a 1-game playoff. It's more similar to the old pre-WC era where the Red Sox were actually decent, but didn't win the Division so didn't even make the playoffs. In the two conference, no division system, the top (6, 8, whatever) teams would just be in, so if the Yankees, Red Sox, and Orioles (lol) were all good, maybe no one from the old AL Central makes it into the playoffs. but if the Orioles (again, lol) won 98 games and the Twins were the Central leaders with 88, that would be more fair anyway.

They it so fewer teams would tank, and more teams were 'in it' longer. Result was that teams just had to tank HARDER to ensure they missed the playoffs.

Nope, I'm East Coast, too. A part of me did want to go to bed but the rest of me really enjoyed the thrill of such a long game and talking about it with others on social media.

Ah, didn't you used to be on the west coast? maybe confusing you with someone else? Anyway, yeah, stayed up for the whole thing, but mostly out of duty, and then because I couldn't quit because I already had like 7 hours invested in it. But only the 10th and 13th had any drama until the eventual "eh, eff it' home run to put the dog down...
 
I haven't lived on the West Coast since the 90s, but I was stationed in Japan for four years, followed by three years in Belgium, so maybe my ever-changing time zones is what you're thinking of.
 
MLB is renaming the disabled list as the "injured list" because after 50 years, it's too confusing for some people.

Society really is going down the toilet.
 
Was their anyone even complaining about the name? Also who is even going to call it this new name. I bet most people will still jut call it the DL like always. Which if they wanted to change is what they should have went with. Do the Kentucky Fried Chicken where they just condensed to KFC.



Jason
 
Was their anyone even complaining about the name? Also who is even going to call it this new name. I bet most people will still jut call it the DL like always. Which if they wanted to change is what they should have went with. Do the Kentucky Fried Chicken where they just condensed to KFC.



Jason

The problem is, now there are advocacy groups that do the complaining for others, whether those others really care or not.
 
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