I have a friend that referred to me as "you old dog" often and Is saw him 3 or 4 times a week.
Yes, but he follows that by asking, "You're well?" Just doesn't sound like someone he works with regularly.
I have a friend that referred to me as "you old dog" often and Is saw him 3 or 4 times a week.
Maybe because he knew that his nephew Peter would be attending the Academy very soon and Scotty wanted to keep an eye on the young lad?I don’t know why Scotty wanted to stay Earthside and supervise trainees, but maybe that worked for him and he got to keep working with his friends, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.
Yeah, I think it's pretty evident that Kirk and Scotty aren't crossing paths too much, even though they both have largely Earthbound assignments.But that doesn't explain the "Mr. Scott, you old space dog" exchange, where it seems clear that Kirk is not regularly working with Scotty. So perhaps Scotty was brought in too along with Sulu.
Another good point! I hadn't thought of that, but you're absolutely right.As for Kirk's position, I don't think he's the commandant of the Academy either, mostly because he's fully read in on and has access to the Genesis Project, which Spock for example does not.
Yeah, I think so. Either that position or something quite like it. Sometime between TMP and TWOK, the Starfleet brass probably said to Kirk, "All right, you've had your fun gallivanting around on your old ship, but it's time for you to get back to work now." I have a feeling that Kirk didn't have much choice about going back to the Admiralty, and by the time TWOK began, he was resigned to his fate.I think Kirk's still Chief of Starfleet Operations during TWOK.
I read in an old Best of Trek collection that the "I had a wee bout, Admiral... Doctor McCoy pulled me through," line was some sort of in-joke about a heart attack that James Doohan had had between TMP and TWOK. The way that exchange plays in the film, though, it seems that Scotty either had a drinking misadventure or caught some form of alien VD!The only way the "You're well?" makes any sense to me is Kirk left him early the previous evening at a drinking establishment, assuming they still have those in the 23rd century.
It's more polite than, "you drank enough Scotch for the Enterprise to float in and that was before I left!" YMMV
Remember Doc Holliday had a shotgun, as well.
I have a friend that referred to me as "you old dog" often and Is saw him 3 or 4 times a week.
In the "Kobyashi Maru" novel, all the cadets took the exact same test. In Diane Duane's "Dreadnought" (I think it was) novel, the antagonist were Romulan instead of Klingon. All the other details were the same.
Actually, when I was a kid in the early 70s we only had to dial five digits to make a local (same exchange) call, so instead of dialing 945-1111 you'd just dial the last digit of the exchange and then the number, as in 5-1111.On the "Kirk to Sickbay" bit from a few pages back...maybe the computer plays that part on a delay after it finds out who the recipient is, then the conversation proceeds from there. Sure, we never experience the delay, but that's TV for you. You'll also catch characters in the same era dialing less than seven numbers on a rotary dial phone, because accurate dialing would be boring to watch.
Actually, when I was a kid in the early 70s we only had to dial five digits to make a local (same exchange) call, so instead of dialing 945-1111 you'd just dial the last digit of the exchange and then the number, as in 5-1111.
In the early 1970s, we could dial 5 digits, as well, or 7. Not exactly a small town, either. 100,000+ at the time. Perhaps a legacy of the exchange system that persisted for a time, until the network was upgraded to fully accommodate the explosion of prefixes that began in the late 1970s.You must have lived in a smaller town. We had to dial the 7 digits for a local call.
He doesn't seem to be especially familiar with the students, he at least twice refers to them as "your cadets" to Spock (emphasis mine), and outright asks Spock how he thinks they'll respond under the pressure of a real mission. All of that indicates to me that he's not really dealing with the students on a regular basis.
The only cadet he seems to recognize besides Saavik is Peter Preston, who he might have met years before, the way he did with Sulu's daughter Demora.
Plus there's the fact that Kirk is pretty obviously bored and unfulfilled in his work once again. If he were teaching or running the Academy full time, I bet he'd find that a lot more stimulating than being a deskbound paper pusher.
McCoy is apparently also regularly attached to the Enterprise, as his name is stenciled on the door of sickbay
We're not really given any sort of indication as to what Uhura has been doing on a regular basis, though. Maybe she was already working at the transporter station we saw her at in STIII? Or maybe, considering the way that Kirk just automatically hands off his book to her when the inspection starts, she was a regular part of Admiral Kirk's staff? His personal attaché, maybe?
On the "Kirk to Sickbay" bit from a few pages back...maybe the computer plays that part on a delay after it finds out who the recipient is, then the conversation proceeds from there. Sure, we never experience the delay, but that's TV for you.
It's really spectacular how you can bend over backwards to try and interpret onscreen evidence in the exact opposite way from which it's intended. For crying out loud, McCoy's name is on the door. But you're rejecting that because you're not 100% convinced that all of the never-identified props on the desk are his?Or then the name gets changed at the push of a button, or when the most recent occupant walks in and the door queries his RFID tag and embedded orders...
McCoy having his personal trinkets in the office would be more convincing. Although whether any of the props qualify for that is unclear.
It's really spectacular how you can bend over backwards to try and interpret onscreen evidence in the exact opposite way from which it's intended. For crying out loud, McCoy's name is on the door. But you're rejecting that because you're not 100% convinced that all of the never-identified props on the desk are his?![]()
I liked to a screenshot earlier in the thread. Here it is again.Do we even see the desk? I remember one long shot.
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