Missy rumor (possible spoiler)
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Well, like I said I'm not up to date on the spoiles so you never know.
If I remember correctly it was Tarrant that Avon got upset at for not killing Servalan. And really Avon never really needed much motivation to kill anybody as long as he survived. Both Danya and Soolin were supposed to be the fighters but I've always thought that Avon was hands down the most dangerous one of the group.
I think it's a bit of a myth that Dayna keeps missing chances to kill Servalan.
In Powerplay, Volcano, Moloch, Games, Orbit and Warlord they're never in the same room together IIRC. Rumours of Death and Sand as well, thinking about it (though both are near misses, and in Rumours the implication is that they've made sure Dayna isn't there when Avon goes to question Servalan, just in case).
In Harvest of Kairos and Terminal Dayna's disarmed and effectively a prisoner when they do meet.
In Deathwatch, there's a clear plot reason why Avon tells her "Don't kill Servalan." Same point pretty much holds for Gold though it's less clearly stated. In Assassin, I think, Dayna grumbles about how "I almost had her," when she's teleported out as she's about to fire. And in Traitor she only just gets a glimpse of Servalan for a moment and doesn't quite believe it till Tarrant agrees that she wasn't seeing things (seeing as until then they'd both thought she'd died with Liberator).
So that really only leaves Animals and maybe Children of Auron (isn't that another disarmed situation?) to grumble about.
In Powerplay, Volcano, Moloch, Games, Orbit and Warlord they're never in the same room together IIRC. Rumours of Death and Sand as well, thinking about it (though both are near misses, and in Rumours the implication is that they've made sure Dayna isn't there when Avon goes to question Servalan, just in case).
In Harvest of Kairos and Terminal Dayna's disarmed and effectively a prisoner when they do meet.
In Deathwatch, there's a clear plot reason why Avon tells her "Don't kill Servalan." Same point pretty much holds for Gold though it's less clearly stated. In Assassin, I think, Dayna grumbles about how "I almost had her," when she's teleported out as she's about to fire. And in Traitor she only just gets a glimpse of Servalan for a moment and doesn't quite believe it till Tarrant agrees that she wasn't seeing things (seeing as until then they'd both thought she'd died with Liberator).
So that really only leaves Animals and maybe Children of Auron (isn't that another disarmed situation?) to grumble about.
I certainly wouldn't mind a season long story that is similar to the Pertwee-Delgado era stories of Doctor vs Master.
Well in Animals she's brainwashed so we can let her off I guess...
She definitely has opportunity in Aftermath, although Avon tells her not to because he needs Orac it’s not like she has to do what he tells her.
Maybe she doesn’t get that many clear cut opportunities, but she has more reason to want Servalan dead than anyone, which means that when she has a shot and doesn’t take it it’s far more obvious, and she can’t play the rational card that Avon, Tarrant, Villa or even Cally could.
I know Avon specifically instructs her not to kill Servalan in Death Watch, but she does have a gun to her head and it must at least cross her mind that she may never get another opportunity.
As for the debacle that is her failure to kill Servalan in Assassin, that just goes to show that, despite her many talents, Simon rarely convincingly sells the fact that Dayna is supposed to be a deadly warrior.
And in Terminal why does she just teleport down with one gun? This is a woman who’s a genius with weaponry who has, on several occasions, pulled bizarre weapons out of thin air, yet she doesn’t even think to slip something up her sleeve? Especially when she must halfway suspect she’s going to her death?
I know it’s the nature of drama, it’s just harder to suspend your disbelief when someone has that much of a grudge.
I guess the only explanation is that, for all her deadliness, Dayna lacks the killer instinct that Soolin has.
I think if Soolin had been on Helotrix Sleer would have had a smoking hole in her forehead
I'm listening to the new Blake's Seven.
Which made me think of this thread, which finally identified the itch I had been trying to scratch about this thread for the last couple days...
Tier Anasazi tricking Dylan Hunt into protecting him after he tricked the Niechians into chasing him instead of his son, the authentic reincarnation of Drago Museveni
On the run, down and out, the former President of the Federation, after the war, is trying to join up to the Liberator crew because Servelan is playing cat and mouse with his ass, and he is looking for allies in the least likely of places.
Which made me think of this thread, which finally identified the itch I had been trying to scratch about this thread for the last couple days...
Tier Anasazi tricking Dylan Hunt into protecting him after he tricked the Niechians into chasing him instead of his son, the authentic reincarnation of Drago Museveni
Terminal was originally meant as the series finale, so we saw the "death" of Sevalan and the destruction of the Liberator. The Federation was mostly destroyed after the war and seemingly there was no moer need for Blake's 7. It was odd that Avon didn't kill her though, he did kill Travis, Anna and in the end Blake himself, but then they needed to keep Sevalan alive.
Well, it was just business with them, no need to get catty.
Servalan's armed, Avon isn't: in most series the hero could still successfully break free and grab the gun under such circumstances, but we've already had ample evidence that if you try that on Servalan you'll be dead before you reach her.
Thinking about it though, there is a bit of a character disconnect between Servalan the personally-proficient killer, and the first season's spoilt commander who's always accompanied by guards, and snivels like a child when she's attacked by monsters in Orac.
I'm trying to think of the first time we see her kill someone herself, rather than let her troops do it: she gives Kasabi an overdose of truth drugs in Pressure Point (and I guess there's her use of IMIPAC in Weapon), but apart from that I can't think of any prior to Dayna's father...
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Once rearmed in Pressure Point, Avon and Blake could've killed both Travis and Sevalan but let them go. They all more or less chances to kill Travis or Sevalan and let them live of course Blake claimedd that Travis was too unimportant to kill.
Jacqueline Pearce though a pretty sexy woman, I loved the story of her flashing the bartender on the hotel they stayed at while filming The Two Doctors. I think she's till acting too, it's be good to see her on Dcotor Who again.
*Walks in, looks around, blinks, confused* I'm terribly sorry, I thought this was the Doctor Who section of the forum. I'll see myself out then, shall I? *walks back out*
There's a rumor going 'round the internets that Missy is actually the Master regenerated into female form. Either that or a new incarnation of the Rani or an evil Romana.
I think you're right, although given how quickly she'd risen through the ranks I wouldn't have put it past her to have killed quite a few people. When she does kill Mellanby there's no hesitation. Her conversation with Kasabi suggests she was always a nasty piece of work, though it may have been that during her rise to power she'd relied on character rather than physical assasination.
Of course by the time we get to Traitor she's killed 26 people (and given that's an answer to a specific question about how many people she's killed to keep her identity a secret we can assume it doesn't count Hal Mellanby or anyone else prior to her fall from grace!)
Yeah, that's the slight disconnect: to start with she seems to be the person who's in-the-job due to family connections (that over-ride the objections of Kasabi, a fairly senior tutor at the Federation military academy), but by season three she's an accomplished killer in her own right.
Not necessarily a contradiction, it's just a bit Roman Republic/Empire really. But Orac seems to imply she'd never ever ever been in personal danger before.
Apologies to the Mods if this is a bit OT for Doctor Who. But B7 is sort of Doctor Who... particularly in the spin-off books and audios.
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Chris Boucher (Who wrote many episodes of B7 and 3 Doctor Who TV stories) sometimes mixes Blake's 7 references into his novel work on Doctor Who.
I've also heard rumors that Matt Smith may be leaving the series.
