Mirror Universe...........

[Captain MAJ]

Why would the mirror universe Borg be any different then the regular universe Borg? The main reason the mirror universe we saw was so different is because earth's history took a vastly different turn, and since humans had such an effect on the course of Alpha Quadrant history, the mirror universe history was dramatically changed too. Tucked away in the Delta Quadrant I imagine history for the Borg went on much as it did in our reality.

I agree.

I the DS9 and ENT MU eps, it seems as though the only culture that is different is Earth. The Vulcans are still passive, the Klingons and Romulans are still aggressive, etc. Only Humans are different. There's no reason to think the Borg would be any different.

Calling the MU the MU is really a misnomer. At best it's only a Parallel Universe that is somehow closely linked with ours, thus explaining the ease of crossover.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Why would the mirror universe Borg be any different then the regular universe Borg? The main reason the mirror universe we saw was so different is because earth's history took a vastly different turn, and since humans had such an effect on the course of Alpha Quadrant history, the mirror universe history was dramatically changed too. Tucked away in the Delta Quadrant I imagine history for the Borg went on much as it did in our reality.

I agree.

I the DS9 and ENT MU eps, it seems as though the only culture that is different is Earth. The Vulcans are still passive, the Klingons and Romulans are still aggressive, etc. Only Humans are different. There's no reason to think the Borg would be any different.

Calling the MU the MU is really a misnomer. At best it's only a Parallel Universe that is somehow closely linked with ours, thus explaining the ease of crossover.

It was made clear in ENT that the Vulcans that landed on Earth was the first ship of an invasion force.

We regularly see characters in the Mirror Universe as opposites such as Brunt and Nog for example. Had the original Spock crossover not occurred no doubt characters and species would be 'genuinely opposite' but since changes were made thanks to Spock the characteristics of people changed from being entirely opposite.

For species unaffected by the Spock crossover such as the Borg they would remain truly opposite.

 

[Captain MAJ]

It was made clear in ENT that the Vulcans that landed on Earth was the first ship of an invasion force.

You know, I think you're right. I'd have to see the ep again.

Did a Vulcan say that? Or was it a Human? If it was a human, it could have been a baseless claim they made as justification, ie Propoganda. By Archer's day, they may have re-written history to justify enslaving the "evil conquering Vulcans."

But I do think you are right about that.

 

[apenpaap]

It was evil insane mirror Archer, boasting to T'pol.

But I definatly get the impression that Vulcan culture is different in the regular universe. Though that may be the books speaking.

 

[Who_Trek]

"We are the Borg. Life, as you have known it, will continue same as before. I'm afraid your technological distinctiveness will not be added to our own. Have a nice day."

 

[kes7]

"We are the Borg. Life, as you have known it, will continue same as before. I'm afraid your technological distinctiveness will not be added to our own. Have a nice day."

Can I have this for my tagline?

 

[docrice]

They probably have this big glowing white church on a beautiful, class-M planet and arrange themselves in choir every evening and occasionally do charity work abroad on hostile worlds such as Earth.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But I definatly get the impression that Vulcan culture is different in the regular universe. Though that may be the books speaking.

The books don't really say that, either. Vulcans act pretty much the same in the MU as in the RU, as do most other races.

 

[Kegg]

I the DS9 and ENT MU eps, it seems as though the only culture that is different is Earth. The Vulcans are still passive, the Klingons and Romulans are still aggressive, etc. Only Humans are different. There's no reason to think the Borg would be any different.

Ah, but I cite to you the original episode, where Spock warns Sulu that in the event of him being killed, his operatives would avenge his death "and some of them are Vulcans" is something he says with special emphasis.

Why would Sulu have reason to fear the passive, weak Vulcans more than regular human operatives? I got the impression Vulcans in the mirror universe are, basically, beings of pure logic without any compassion or morality. Logic need not be a nice thing, and clearly in the hands of this bunch of Vulcans it's become a brutal thing. Whether or not that's a consequence of their enslavement by the humans is another matter.

It's also part of the reason I didn't like the DS9 MU much in principle, as it sort of took away from TOS's idea of a universe that's fundamentally different from ours in a black/white sort of way. At least early episodes like "Crossover" play with this idea in regards with the Intendant and the Bajorans - the Bajorans are powerful in this universe and allies of the Cardassians and Kira is a psycho. Sadly, this element gets downplayed for a Star Wars-esque scenario of renegade humans fighting the good fight against the evil Klingon/Cardassian empire. By the time we see more Bajorans, like Lyta, well, guess which side they're on?

 

[Michael]

Lyta

Wrong universe.

 

[Kegg]

Lyta

Wrong universe.

Damn.

Well, those times Patricia Tallman was on Star Trek? That was totally Mirror Universe Lyta.

 

[Yug]

The books don't really say that, either. Vulcans act pretty much the same in the MU as in the RU

'cept for a fondness for sportin' evil goatees

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The books don't really say that, either. Vulcans act pretty much the same in the MU as in the RU

'cept for a fondness for sportin' evil goatees

Hey, hey, hey...goatees are NOT evil...

 

[Mirror_Barclay]

But I definatly get the impression that Vulcan culture is different in the regular universe. Though that may be the books speaking.

The books don't really say that, either. Vulcans act pretty much the same in the MU as in the RU, as do most other races.

Missed opportunities.

 

[TS-1838-SWATH]

It was made clear in ENT that the Vulcans that landed on Earth was the first ship of an invasion force.

You know, I think you're right. I'd have to see the ep again.

Did a Vulcan say that? Or was it a Human? If it was a human, it could have been a baseless claim they made as justification, ie Propoganda. By Archer's day, they may have re-written history to justify enslaving the "evil conquering Vulcans."

But I do think you are right about that.

I took as Human Fear that made them assume that it was the start of an Invasion (sp?) In the First Contact A Vulcan gave the Live Long and Prosper sign and one of the Humans shot at him the a group of them rushed the ship