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"Mirror, Mirror" Question

Vanyel

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Why were the Halkan's still a peaceful people in the Mirror Universe while it seems that everything else did. The same question could be asked about the Klingons and Cardassians.

Any ideas?
 
Because the "mirror" universe is just another alternate reality, albeit one that seems more significantly divergent than most of the others we've seen. Some things are "completely opposite", some things are just different, some things are virtually the same. Miles O'Brien, for instance.

A better question is whether there are multiple "mirror universes" in which similar events occur, and whether Our Heroes may not have visited the same MU each time. :)
 
Yes the mirror universe is not opposite just different it is just like looking into the mirror where your right and left sides are interchanged but your head is still on top and your feet are still on the bottom. Using this analogy some things are the same and others are opposite.
 
If it were a complete mirror universe, then space would be white, stars would be black, dark would be light, right would be left, etc. Since that wasn't the case, there's plenty fo room for similarity.
 
It's a psychological/sociological mirror, not a physical one. That was "The Counter-clock Incident".

I wish DS9 had carried that forward rather than making the good people bad and the bad people worse. They showed an Evil Universe, not a Mirror.
 
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Why were the Halkan's still a peaceful people in the Mirror Universe

Humans: Evil/Good

Halkans: Neutral/Neutral

The reflection of neutral is... neutral.

"If the Enterprise bombards us from orbit, tell my wife I said, hello!" :)

The fact is that although a mirror universe, not everything does need to be an exact opposite.

If it was, then the Terran Empire and Klingons would have been at war cos the belligerent Organians would probably had encouraged the fighting, rather than stopped it!
 
If it was, then the Terran Empire and Klingons would have been at war cos the belligerent Organians would probably had encouraged the fighting, rather than stopped it!

That might actually be true, you know. ;)

Who knows, (*) from "Day of the Dove" might be one of them - in either universe.
 
according to Shat's MU trilogy of novels, the Empire obliterated Organia by causing its sun to go nova after the Klingons invaded...
 
I still don't like to think that all the "mirror universe" stories are all taking place in the same universe. "Mirror, Mirror" was really enough for me, and I admit it: I think they went back to that well too many times. "Mirror, Mirror" and "Yesterday's Enterprise" are in a class by themselves, and even they have some serious logic/causality flaws.

The other "mirror" stories seemed to be more Hollyweird melodrama than anything else. And "Through a Mirror, Darkly" pretty much put the nail in the coffin as far as alterniverse stories go. STARGATE SG-1 did better than that.

I just don't see how they can all be connected. Each one has to be its own alternate reality.
 
Thought the Halkans looked a little more "tired" in the MU, as though they had really been beaten down by the Empire over the years.

Halkans: Neutral/Neutral

The reflection of neutral is... neutral.

I have no strong feelings about this one way or the other. If I am killed, tell my wife I said "Hello".
 
I still don't like to think that all the "mirror universe" stories are all taking place in the same universe. "Mirror, Mirror" was really enough for me, and I admit it: I think they went back to that well too many times. "Mirror, Mirror" and "Yesterday's Enterprise" are in a class by themselves, and even they have some serious logic/causality flaws.

The other "mirror" stories seemed to be more Hollyweird melodrama than anything else. And "Through a Mirror, Darkly" pretty much put the nail in the coffin as far as alterniverse stories go. STARGATE SG-1 did better than that.

I just don't see how they can all be connected. Each one has to be its own alternate reality.

I like the TNG episode "Parallels" theory of multiple universes. What we saw in the DS9 "mirror" episodes might take place in the same universe we saw in "Mirror, Mirror", or it might be one of an infinite number of "divergent" universes evolving from a particular outcome of some set of events in that episode. There could (actually under this theory I think there must) be other divergent universes where Spock's rebellion failed and the Empire survived (such as in the TNG novel "Dark Mirror"). As for the Enterprise MU episode...we are in agreement.
 
^You make some interesting claims, but I'd be curious to hear _why_ you feel the way you do.

Because if you pay attention to the details, the various "mirror" stories don't fit together relative to each other, and the whole concept was shakey from the beginning: how did Kirk's landing party get beamed into their alterniverse uniforms, for one...
 
^You make some interesting claims, but I'd be curious to hear _why_ you feel the way you do.

Because if you pay attention to the details, the various "mirror" stories don't fit together relative to each other, and the whole concept was shakey from the beginning: how did Kirk's landing party get beamed into their alterniverse uniforms, for one...

A wizard did it.

But I do too think that TNG's Parallels established the idea of a, for lack of a better word, multi-verse. This multi-verse could have an infinite number of "Mirror" Universes. So Kirk and and company could have visited MU 1, The DS9 crew could have visited MU 4, 27 & 4,325,584,123,654.
 
And notice how "our" Uhura automatically gets her original tricorder back over her shoulder and across her body when they get back to the right universe.
 
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