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MIRI-cannibals??

Maybe the things that cause the normal degradation and "rot" of foodstuffs and natural fibers was killed by the new disease, it could have been part of how it was supposed to work. A virus that kills off the disease killing bacteria, but then it also kills off the people, too.

Also because this is an "alien" civilisation maybe they had projects (like the life extension one) to keep foodstuff/ clothing safe for something for 300 years or more and that is why that only the children in this town survived all this time.
Phase 1 of the project was to keep food supplies viable. Then when they ;learnt something from this project they started the life extending project from the same town.
As pointed out these urban kids with their non-existent work effort would have no chance of sorviving 300 years on canned food unless they teamed up with some farming group of pre-teens/
In realty the only people to survive this apocalypse would be aboriginal or islander kids who had been taught hunting with their parents off the land or sea. Even then they would be subject to accidents like broken legs or drowning etc,
Even farm kids would be subject to drought and flood and would have very little resources to manage it.
I doubt a group of adults would survive let alone children.

But thats not what Miri was about? It was supposed to be an allegory about chemical weapons.

As for cannibalism. I think it more likely that the kids would turn to farming than butchering one of their own. And why be a cannibal when you could kill a cow or sheep.
 
Their brains were not "growing" commensurate with the information being stuffed into their brains.

It's possible that they had Swiss cheese short term memories, which is why they remember before the disaster, but were less clear about what had happened for the last three hundred years muddling by, or that 300 years had passed.
 
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This was a story about the dangers of creating immortality, or too long a life I thought, not chemical weapons! This story could have been a script for an unused George A. Romero zombie apocalypse film I'm sure! :ouch:
JB
 
This was a story about the dangers of creating immortality, or too long a life I thought, not chemical weapons! This story could have been a script for an unused George A. Romero zombie apocalypse film I'm sure! :ouch:
JB
Yeh thats what I meant.
Mad irresponsible scientists and all that.
Destroyed a whole world
 
Section 31 would have weaponized this medicine, to clear pre warp planets for strip mining.

If the "virus" jumped species, other mammals, then the ecology is going to break the fuck down.
 
Section 31 would have weaponized this medicine, to clear pre warp planets for strip mining.

If the "virus" jumped species, other mammals, then the ecology is going to break the fuck down.
Well, it's unlikely that insect life would be affected so probably a new ecology would build up. But the degree to which he avian and mammalian life was affected might vary. What happens to an insect population if there are no predators to feed on them to keep numbers in check.
 
Speaking of The Cry of the Onlies (the novel mentioned earlier in this thread), does anyone know WHY, specifically, its author was ordered to scrap all mentions of Miri's planet being a second Earth?
 
Maybe because in both the book and the episode it was based on, the planet looking like an exact copy of Earth had nothing whatsoever to do with the plot?
 
When I've watched "The Walking Dead" and they've started farming I've always noticed that the acreage is way too small. About 1/2 square metre per person.
Really in the "Walking Dead" 90% of the time should be spent farming or obtaining food. Except hey spend 90% of their time fighting zombies or each other.
That's because fighting is cool and farming is not.

"Mir" would have been a boring episode if the kids had been well-behaved and working the farm.
 
Well, it's unlikely that insect life would be affected so probably a new ecology would build up. But the degree to which he avian and mammalian life was affected might vary. What happens to an insect population if there are no predators to feed on them to keep numbers in check.

If insects were sacrosanct, little would probably happen. The main consumer of insects (on Earth and its exact duplicates) is other insects; total disappearance of birds or shrews or frogs would probably cause only relatively shallow population waves that would even out in the 300 years.

And who gives a shit about insects? Edible stuff grows just fine without them. Not all of it, but enough to sustain human agrarian societies of the normal type (that is, normal for pre-19th century).

But if other invertebrates like common earthworms were to die out... The horror! The (extinction of) humanity! Soil would die, and the dead would just pile up on it.

I rather doubt the fine work of the mad scientists here would be designed to jump species, though. And if not, current naturally zoonotic or anthroponotic diseases suggest that it would not keep on jumping, so we might lose just raccoons and wolverines but not squirrels and poodles. Plus, were adults to die out so rapidly as to leave behind a landscape looking like this studio backlot, mankind would simply stop traveling overnight, so the virus would be unlikely to spread further.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I am still wondering if three hundred years of childhood would be a blessing or a curse? Probably the latter.
 
The powergrid would break down in a week, and then all the dairy spoils.

Google says that unrefrigerated peanut butter lasts 3 to 6 months.

How infectious is their immortality?

Was a lot of their food immortal?

Bananas that never go black, jam that never sours?

Oh?

Would that mean that fermentation is impossible?
 
In Barjavel's "Le grand secret" the secret of immortality rendered the plants (and animals) immortal as well, so that for example as long as your bananas stay on the plant they don't age nor decay. More practical than a fridge!
 
The most ridiculous thing about "Miri" was Michael J Pollard being considered pre pubescent.

We have to allow for the kids being aliens, or for the disease to have inconsistent results in different kids. Jahn and Miri got to be full grown before they developed the final symptoms of scabby insanity which, now that I think of it, might have been a metaphor for syphilis.

And may I say, Michael J. Pollard was great in "Miri" and he was great on Lost in Space ("The Magic Mirror"). It's no accident that he and Kim Darby were both movie stars. It's hard for me to imagine this episode with actual little kids in the leading guest roles. If "And the Children Shall Lead" is any indication, the pre-pubescent actors available for television in the late Sixties were not very good.
 
The script called for 35 year old Kirk to be tempted by this burgeoning youth.

Which was apparently "fine" back then.
 
The script called for 35 year old Kirk to be tempted by this burgeoning youth.

Which was apparently "fine" back then.

Well, since they cast a 19 year old woman in the role, and Shatner never portrayed anything more than fatherly concern for her, you have to admit that child molestation wasn't fine in the Sixties. Kirk also never ogled Jamie Finney or tried to seduce her. He was a good man. :)

I think there's a tendency today to flatter our own enlightened era by dumping on the recent past as a time of supposed savagery. Mad Men got a whole series out of this conceit, pretending that the Sixties was a time of absurdly cold insensitivity combined with a total lack of self-awareness. I mean, it was there in the culture (look at Gene Roddenberry's real-life behavior), but the show exaggerated how accepted and normal it was supposed to be.
 
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