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Michael Chabon vs Trekkies

I don't think you could or at least not for long. The society more and more is built around the assumption that people have access to internet. The same happens with any technology which becomes ubiquitous.

Lots of folks still live without it, and somehow manage to get by.
 
1) it doesn’t have to be mandatory.
2) if it springs up from an organization like the Federation, it doesn’t have to be effectively mandatory either.
3) not all tech stories need to be retellings of Frankenstein....or the Borg. There’s a sensationalism to these things like the best way to live is in an arcane Luddite fantasyworld....and our contemporary will be someone’s arcane eventually.

I think the bigger threat is a Gattaca or In Time or Elysium-like situation...where the haves get insane benefits from tech and the have-nots get to mongrel by and die before their time.
 
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My dad has never had internet (not even sure if he has ever used it), yet somehow manages to get by. :shrug:
*Sigh* Yes, for now. But for how long you think our society will remain in a state where one can do that? Because I don't think that for long, unless one wants to be some sort of a hermit without job or bank account.
 
But for how long?

I work for a large regional health insurance company..

Probably a solid 20% of our members do not have internet access by choice and get all plan documents and correspondence by hard copy, mailed, and only have basic flip cell phones. Some do not have cell phones at all.

So it's easily doable, but it's not necessarily easy on the day to day
 
I work for a large regional health insurance company..

Probably a solid 20% of our members do not have internet access by choice and get all plan documents and correspondence by hard copy, mailed, and only have basic flip cell phones. Some do not have cell phones at all.

So it's easily doable, but it's not necessarily easy on the day to day
Similar experience here. Often times I am working with them to access resources using basic flip phones. They do not usually see a need for the Internet any way.
 
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basically says he dislikes the shitty hovel that Raffi is living in and Chabon responds with if you can’t be polite and use proper language you are free to go.

I found it highly amusing since Chabon is the man responsible for having someone drop the F bomb in our beloved Picard’s face to much distaste.

What? These things are not equivalent at all, or even ironic. The language we use in fiction exists within the secondary world we create; the language we use in public discourse is entirely separate. A writer making a character swear doesn't mean that you should go up to said writer and swear at them in the grocery store.

My issue with his answer to Oh's sunglasses: He's implying that yes, it's a clue she's not Vulcan.

Is he, though? The only thing he seems to suggest (that I've seen) is that there is a different reason for wearing sunglasses than to protect her eyes. People are assuming this means she isn't Vulcan, but it seems perfectly in keeping with his initial comment to say that she's using a tried intimidation tactic on Jurati.
 
I'll pass on the whole "Human Collective" thing.

Resistance...

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...is futile.
 
*Sigh* Yes, for now. But for how long you think our society will remain in a state where one can do that? Because I don't think that for long, unless one wants to be some sort of a hermit without job or bank account.

Probably true, in not that much time. It is not possible to apply for a position with my company without using the internet. There's no procedure. I think we've actually told people to leave, go to the local library, and apply from there.
 
Probably true, in not that much time. It is not possible to apply for a position with my company without using the internet. There's no procedure. I think we've actually told people to leave, go to the local library, and apply from there.
Interesting. The company I use to work for was required by law to keep paper applications after a lawsuit over discrimination for people who couldn't use the Internet for whatever reason. Or, so it was explained to me.
 
Resistance...

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Maybe, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps...
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Probably true, in not that much time. It is not possible to apply for a position with my company without using the internet. There's no procedure. I think we've actually told people to leave, go to the local library, and apply from there.
From my experience, that started in earnest right after the financial crisis a decade ago. I watched it in real time as more and more of the jobs I applied to required a computerized application.
 
I think the bigger threat is a Gattaca or In Time or Elysium-like situation...where the haves get insane benefits from tech and the have-nots get to mongrel by and die before their time.

Altered Carbon very effectively joins that list. And unlike those you mentioned, it offers a look at the potential drawbacks for the haves and what such insane benefits do to the human psyche.
 
Uh, who said anything about smartphones? On that subject though, I can see them disappearing as handheld devices as contact lenses or something else comes along that's light to carry but that gives us even bigger screens (that's the point of bigger phones, not that we've abandoned miniaturizing the tech inside them further). Eventually it'll be an implant that links our brains directly into the global internet, or to (again, eventually) a Human Collective.

Smartphone works as an analog to most devices. Earbuds are going to become more difficult to handle if they get much smaller.

Regarding the Human Collection thing. Look at how powerful privacy demands are becoming, especially in Europe. In Germany Google Earth as been essentially stopped at collecting more street photos. Hardly anyone wants the world inside their brain.
 
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Probably true, in not that much time. It is not possible to apply for a position with my company without using the internet. There's no procedure. I think we've actually told people to leave, go to the local library, and apply from there.

I was recently looking for work and every single job I applied for required an online application. Even the job I did get by personally going to a hiring event required that I sit down at a computer and fill out their online application.
 
Unemployment insurance in Canada - though our government still refuses to resume calling it by that true name - is the same way. Applications and report cards are filed online, whether we like the idea or not.
 
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