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And this is a valid explanation only in tv land. it takes about one to three hours to cremate a human body at a temperature of 870–980 °C (1,600–1,800 °F). Even after the cremation process, the bones are run through a hammermill to reduce them to small fragments.

It was enough to know that a lab fire with continuous explosions would be assumed to reduce a human body to a condition beyond recognition (or a condition worth burying), and to the rational mind, that is believable enough--especially to an eyewitness to the fury of the lab's destruction.
 
I remember when they announced Galactica's remake. Ronald D. Moore. received threats and intimidations from fans of the classic series because it was an "irreplaceable masterpiece".

I wonder which two guys were calling it a masterpiece. From the start, BSG was viewed as bloated, grasping attempt to be Star Wars 2.0, only lacking heart, creative fire, something resembling a coherent plot....
 
It's not naive, it's idealistic. I don't think it was intended as a model for government and it doesn't matter if he personally was able to live up to the ideal or not (and it doesn't matter if I would have written slightly different lyrics-- everybody's a bit different). It's like "This Land Is Your Land." It means that the country (and the world) is for all the people, not that you can walk into my house and sleep on the couch without knocking.

I still see it as a guy sitting on a perch as if he's found the secret of life for all to follow (through suggestion), yet he never lived that life--in some cases, he lived an abusive opposite. So, I reject "music historians" (the biggest salespeople) attempt to link the message with the man (and makes one question the sincerity of it all), as if he was some activist putting his life on the line (or practicing what he preached) as a living example (like MLK, for one).

His final works were more personal than political, so, if he had continued in that vein, I have a feeling that the critics would not have been as kind to the living man as they were to his memory.

Agreed. Death often makes some elevate the value of an artist's work, when said work--without the yoke of tragedy--is not so grand after all.
 
I still see it as a guy sitting on a perch as if he's found the secret of life for all to follow
No, he's just asking us to imagine a better world. He's an artist who's painted a pretty picture.

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I wonder which two guys were calling it a masterpiece. From the start, BSG was viewed as bloated, grasping attempt to be Star Wars 2.0, only lacking heart, creative fire, something resembling a coherent plot....
I don't know if they were only "two guys". I remember at the time there were a lot of sites and forum boards dedicated to BSG-TOS, more than, I think, Space 1999's or V's ones. And perhaps they weren't exacly huge crowds, but surely they seemed motivated.

And don't forget that the original Singer-De Santo project was a sequel, so someone believed that there was an audience for it.
 
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I still see it as a guy sitting on a perch as if he's found the secret of life for all to follow (through suggestion), yet he never lived that life--in some cases, he lived an abusive opposite. So, I reject "music historians" (the biggest salespeople) attempt to link the message with the man (and makes one question the sincerity of it all), as if he was some activist putting his life on the line (or practicing what he preached) as a living example (like MLK, for one).
Activists don't need-- and seldom should-- put their lives on the line. Artists inspire. Bob Dylan didn't put his life on the line, either, and neither did Pete Seeger or Simon & Garfunkel. "Imagine" isn't supposed to provide a model for life any more than "Blowin' In The Wind" is-- it's a song that's intended to make people think and feel. Lennon is an artist who is justifiably admired for bringing us works of art like "Imagine" and "Give Peace A Chance" (another song that really can't be taken literally), not a monk who's taken a vow of poverty-- he earned his money and there's nothing wrong with being rich (despite what contemporary crusaders might tell you).

No, he's just asking us to imagine a better world. He's an artist who's painted a pretty picture.
That's it exactly.
 
Lennon is an artist who is justifiably admired for bringing us works of art like "Imagine" and "Give Peace A Chance" (another song that really can't be taken literally)
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And don't forget that the original Singer-De Santo project was a sequel, so someone believed that there was an audience for it.

Well, dozens of old TV shows have had movie reboots or revivals, some more obscure than others, so that's not the point. The point is, there's this myth I've heard propounded by modern Classic-BSG fans that the original series was a huge hit with a fanbase rivaling Star Trek's, and that's simply not true. Its pilot had record viewership, but it swiftly plummeted in the ratings after that and was ultimately a very expensive flop, and in the ensuing decades it languished in relative obscurity. It didn't get a fraction as much coverage in magazines like Starlog and Cinefantastique as Trek or Star Wars or Doctor Who or other things did. Sure, it was remembered enough to get the occasional in-joke reference, like the bit in the A-Team titles where a Cylon walks by Dirk Benedict, but it was never the juggernaut success that some modern fans claim it was.

The problem is, many fans just don't have the courage to own their preferences as personal opinions, so they need to hide behind the pretense that they're part of a huge fan movement. You see it all the time when people say "The fans want..." or "The fans hate..." when they're really saying "I want" or "I hate." See, I grew up in a generation when pretty much all genre fandom was a fringe thing and it was unusual for an SFTV show to make it past one season; so liking something that wasn't hugely popular was, if anything, a mark of pride for a sci-fi nerd. To an extent, being a genre fan at all was about rooting for the underdog. But now that genre as a whole (and nerd culture as a whole) has gone mainstream, many fans are more insecure about admitting that they have niche interests, so they pretend they speak for a vast crowd. Which is so unnecessary.
 
On the subject of TIH's fate...here we go:

http://www.heroesandiconstv.com/shows/the-incredible-hulk

They're moving it up to weekdays at 5 p.m.

If they're starting from the beginning, it will be a long wait to pick up where ME-TV left off.

I don't know if they were only "two guys". I remember at the time there were a lot of sites and forum boards dedicated to BSG-TOS, more than, I think, Space 1999's or V's ones. And perhaps they weren't exacly huge crowds, but surely they seemed motivated.

And don't forget that the original Singer-De Santo project was a sequel, so someone believed that there was an audience for it.

I think the point is that unlike another short-lived series that was considered to be of high quality enough for fans to call for a return trip, and it was not an unjustified call (see: the build up from Firefly to Serenity), next to no one was shedding tears when the original BSG was cancelled. At the time, it was written off by most as a steaming pile of crap, and as if to add insult to injury, Galactica 1980 came along to hammer the final nail in its low-quality coffin.

Activists don't need-- and seldom should-- put their lives on the line. Artists inspire.

I also added "or practicing what he preached" I've never appreciated how so much of the music "journalism" media pushed this idea of Lennon being something of a man who walked on air (ironic--considering one of lines from the song in question), while he was largely paying lip service to the ideas in his music. Additionally, as message songs go, the same writers--by psychological default--pushed other (more relevant) message songs into a second place position, such as the superior Inner City Blues (or the entire album it came from--What's Going On from Gaye) or Edwin Starr's version of War--certainly more relevant to the era of their creation--and in some cases, still potent for today's issues (Gaye's work more than others).
 
I'm sure that out there there are The Starlost fans who would become rabid if someone proposed a reboot.
I looked that up on Wikipedia and watched some clips on YouTube, and I could actually see a lot of potential in a reboot. Actually, it stikes me as perfect reboot material, it's an interesting concept, but the original ran into problems that didn't really allow the idea to be explored to it's full potential.
On the subject of TIH's fate...here we go:

http://www.heroesandiconstv.com/shows/the-incredible-hulk

They're moving it up to weekdays at 5 p.m.
Damn, I really wish my cable provider would pick up H&I, they have a ton of show I would love to check out.
EDIT:
Funco has announced that they are going to be releasing a new line of Batman '66 action figures.
 
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I looked that up on Wikipedia and watched some clips on YouTube, and I could actually see a lot of potential in a reboot. Actually, it stikes me as perfect reboot material, it's an interesting concept, but the original ran into problems that didn't really allow the idea to be explored to it's full potential.

Yeah, that's the tragedy of The Starlost. It had a good idea (generation ships whose inhabitants have forgotten their origins is a classic SF trope) and was developed by a top-notch writer, Harlan Ellison, but it was disastrously botched in the execution.
 
Yeah, that's the tragedy of The Starlost. It had a good idea (generation ships whose inhabitants have forgotten their origins is a classic SF trope) and was developed by a top-notch writer, Harlan Ellison, but it was disastrously botched in the execution.
Yep. I was reading some episode summaries and these were my reactions:

"Circuit of Death"
A disillusioned man triggers the self-destruction of the Ark but intends to escape;
"Well, this seems interesting, a metaphor about the futility of existence and..."
he and Devon must undergo miniaturization to stop the detonation
"WTF!?!"
 
If they're starting from the beginning, it will be a long wait to pick up where ME-TV left off.
I wouldn't care to do the reviews at a daily pace anyway. I vote that we proceed at the pace and scheduling that would have played out if Me had kept running the show weekly.
 
I wouldn't care to do the reviews at a daily pace anyway. I vote that we proceed at the pace and scheduling that would have played out if Me had kept running the show weekly.

That's fine with me for Hulk, though I haven't decided if I'll do the same for Land of the Giants.
 
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