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Metamorphosis

I wasn't really expecting to launch an entire side conversation...not that I mind. :p

In any case, I wasn't really questioning the approach VOTI took from a pragmatic, practical standpoint, I just think that, for my own tastes at least, it's a shame that it's not a bit more comprehensive.
 
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I've not heard of this, unless we're talking about the chronology and encyclopedia books Rich Handley wrote..

That's what I was (vaguely) thinking of . . . .

Apparently, though, Titan is planning reprint most of that earlier stuff in a series of APES omnibuses: the previous movie novelizations, the TV show novelizations, etc.

Everything except the original novel by Pierre Boulle, which I believe Del Rey owns and is unlikely to ever let go of! :)
 
I knew about the movie collections from Titan, but not the TV episodes. Cool!

Now, we just need to convince them to 1) commission more original stuff, and 2) hire me.

:D
 
I knew about the movie collections from Titan, but not the TV episodes. Cool!

Now, we just need to convince them to 1) commission more original stuff, and 2) hire me.

:D

Check out the back ads in the FORBIDDEN ZONE anthology. There are several volumes of APES reprints listed. Titan seems to be getting into APES in a big way.
 
Doctor Who has the I Who series of books, 3 in all, which started out just looking at the books but brought in the audios for volumes 2 & 3.

There is some behind the scene stuff but the focus is on the books themselves with plot summaries, memorable moments, continuity links and reviews as well.

It only covers the original fiction, there's nothing about the Target books.
 
Check out the back ads in the FORBIDDEN ZONE anthology. There are several volumes of APES reprints listed. Titan seems to be getting into APES in a big way.

The novelizations of the live-action series don't cover all of the episodes. Notably absent is an adaptation of the first episode, for example.

I wonder if they could be convinced to "complete the set....."

:D
 
Has any other TV/movie franchise had a whole reference book that was exclusively about its tie-in books? Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Doctor Who did, and Star Wars has such exhaustive coverage of every bit of minutiae that they very well might as well, but it can't be that common.

Star Wars recently had a book out devoted to the books and novels, though I don't think it has anything behind-the-scenes [oh, I see someone's already mentioned it]. Doctor Who had a set of 3 large, unauthorized, unofficial guidebooks that extensively cover the many novels that were being released between the old series and the new series (Stevil2001, I agree it's been baffling and disappointing seeing Mad Norwegian Press stall on some of the projects the announce; their I, Who volumes 1-3 are great). The coverage is exhaustive, but they also don't really have a lot of behind-the-scenes information. One fan even did a guidebook for the DW annuals that were always coming out during christmas while the old series was running, and that book does have a couple of short chapters about the making of them; and that one is a whole different level of obsure.

Talking generally, I quite like Voyages of Imagination, and found it useful and interesting. But it wouldn't have helped me conceptualize the idea of the 1980's era ST novels as innovating their own continuity before the coming of TNG. OTOH, while I may have been inspired to buy a handful of Trek novels that I hadn't bothered with before, the threads about 80's Trek lit caused me to track down and buy and insane amount of those older Trek books. I like VOI, and am glad it exists, but I think there's been some fair critique of it brought up in this thread. I too was surprised by the space allocated to covering some of those anthologies that don't seem very mainstream. It is a little galling to see The Final Reflection neglected, it had an impact, it inspired future TV Trek writers, it has connections to an RPG suppliment, the Klingons culture is developed differently that can be detailed in brief, ect.

I'm not going to get too picky. I have and like VOI. I have information I compiled from this forum as a guide to the 80's Trek continuity. I have some printouts for what I'll call the Klinzhai version of the Klingon language (for lack of a better label) and it's canon (I really hate that word) counterpart, the Klingon/English dictionary. And...I have the books themselves, the ones that I've read, and look forward to reading in the near future.
 
Check out the back ads in the FORBIDDEN ZONE anthology. There are several volumes of APES reprints listed. Titan seems to be getting into APES in a big way.
Have they said anything about whether or not they are doing a novel prequel for War For The Planet of the Apes like they did for Dawn? Firestorm seems to have gotten a pretty good reaction, but I'm not sure how well it sold.
 
I recently reread this book for the first time since I was a kid, and really liked it.

I went to look it up in Voyages of Imagination, and in a perfect example of Jeff Ayres's lackluster approach to research, there's only a one-sentence quotation from Jean Lorrah saying she doesn't want to get into it "again"! Which is more useful if you've heard "it" before. Anyone know what "it" is? What's the backstory here? And why can't Ayres look up a source to save his life?

I looked on Fanlore to see if there was anything about Metamorphosis. Not a thing.

I did, however, find a letter to a fanzine where Diane Carey laid into Paramount and Gene Roddenberry over the writing of Ghost Ship. She's polite about it, but she also says some impolitic things. Little wonder she didn't write another Star Trek book until after Roddenberry's death.
 
I looked on Fanlore to see if there was anything about Metamorphosis. Not a thing.

I did, however, find a letter to a fanzine where Diane Carey laid into Paramount and Gene Roddenberry over the writing of Ghost Ship. She's polite about it, but she also says some impolitic things. Little wonder she didn't write another Star Trek book until after Roddenberry's death.
Oh, thanks for that.

"it'll be one of the last Treks that isn't whitewashed. There will be no more IDIC in Star Trek."

!!!
 
Oh, thanks for that.

"it'll be one of the last Treks that isn't whitewashed. There will be no more IDIC in Star Trek."

!!!

I know! :)

The letter was published, according to Fanlore, in late 1988. Carey would have written the outline for the third Piper novel, The Federation Mutinies, sometime that year (since it was supposed to tie into The Lost Years as a kind of prequel). Thinking about it, I wonder if its rejection -- or issues she was having trying to make an outline that would pass muster with Roddenberry's office (since she writes that they wanted to retrofit the TNG ethos back onto the original series) -- contributed to the bitter tone of the letter excerpts.
 
Have they said anything about whether or not they are doing a novel prequel for War For The Planet of the Apes like they did for Dawn? Firestorm seems to have gotten a pretty good reaction, but I'm not sure how well it sold.

Greg Keyes, who wrote Firestorm, is doing another prequel.

And I can finally divulge that I'm doing the actual novelization.

It's a whole Greg/Greg team-up thing. :)
 
Greg Keyes, who wrote Firestorm, is doing another prequel.

And I can finally divulge that I'm doing the actual novelization.

It's a whole Greg/Greg team-up thing. :)
Very sweet -- Firestorm was fantastic, and looking forward to both new books in the coming year.
 
Are they being published by Titan? I looked on both their website and Amazon and couldn't find anything about any books related to War for the Planet of the Apes.
 
Are they being published by Titan? I looked on both their website and Amazon and couldn't find anything about any books related to War for the Planet of the Apes.

They're from Titan. I'm not sure they've been officially announced yet, but they're listed in the front matter of the FORBIDDEN ZONE anthology, which is already getting out in the world, so I was given permission to talk about them.

Not that I can divulge a word about the movie, of course! :)
 
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