Mental Wellness Support Group

[wayoung]

I tried a couple different antidepressants at times and I found they did nothing except give me side effects that made me feel worse about myself and, years later, I feel like I still experience.

When I went off them (doctor supervised) and people who didn't know I was on then commented on how different I was. Sharper.

Mood didn't change one way or the other. Withdrawal was terrible though.

That's just my experience though. I am well aware that for a lot of people they do have a huge difference, and I'd never advise people quit doctor prescribed medication.

I was on a twice daily benzo plus the anti depressants at my worse.

Now I have a prn benzo I take for when anxiety is past my coping techniques but I record it everytime I take it and avoid it as much as possible. The one I took last week was the first in 6 weeks.

 

[fireproof78]

I have to confess, one of my biggest hesitations about looking into therapy for my anxiety is that I don't want to be put on meds. I was briefly when I was in high school, and my mom didn't like how I acted on them, and looking back, I don't either. I went from barely being able to talk to people, to jumping into the open back of a pickup with people I just met to go to a restaurant I'd never been to.

Ok, then don't.

It's called informed consent. Unless you're a danger to self, others or others property you don't have to take meds. Meds are great, in conjunction with therapy. Meds by themselves are less than effective as therapy alone, or therapy and meds. Meds, to me, are like a spotter giving that lift over the hump. Yeah, you still have to do the work. It's not a freaking cure,

 

[Commander Troi]

Ok, then don't.

It's called informed consent. Unless you're a danger to self, others or others property you don't have to take meds. Meds are great, in conjunction with therapy. Meds by themselves are less than effective as therapy alone, or therapy and meds. Meds, to me, are like a spotter giving that lift over the hump. Yeah, you still have to do the work. It's not a freaking cure,

What he said. Even though I'd been on antidepressants for years, nothing really changed until I started going to therapy and doing the work.

 

[JD]

In that case, I might start giving a little more thought. Up until now I had thought my anxiety wasn't really having that serious of an effect, but now after quitting jobs three times and struggling to convince myself to get another, I'm starting to think it might be.
Anybody know anything about equine therapy? I thought I'd read that they do it for anxiety and things like, so I wasn't sure if I'd qualify it, because if I did it would be a perfect way to spend some more time with horses. And being around them really does seem to help with my anxiety and stress. I tried googling some places around here, but they're websites most talking about kids with more serious issues.

 

[JD]

I decided this weekend that I'm going to go to the grocery store's daily open interviews tomorrow and I can already feel the anxiety starting to kick in. I'm really going to try to my best to push through it and actually go this time. Kind of hoping I get some horse time during my bike ride tomorrow before I go. If not I'll definitely be taking some doggie time with our pups.

 

[wayoung]

Two weeks ago I got an email from a coworker about something I did. Long story short, even though I was right I had a full on anxiety attack and had to take a pill, first one in 6 weeks. I just didn't want to have what seemed like an inevitable fight that would escalate to the company president.

He never replied back and I forgot about it.

Today he emailed again about it and my anxiety spiked again. Not as bad as last week, but still bad. I replied explaining it and am now obsessed with his reply. I just don't want to deal with the hassle and explaining it to the bosses and whatever else happens. There's been so much other shit come up that it's one more thing escalated to them and even though I'm right I'm sure I'll look bad for it.

 

[fireproof78]

In that case, I might start giving a little more thought. Up until now I had thought my anxiety wasn't really having that serious of an effect, but now after quitting jobs three times and struggling to convince myself to get another, I'm starting to think it might be.
Anybody know anything about equine therapy? I thought I'd read that they do it for anxiety and things like, so I wasn't sure if I'd qualify it, because if I did it would be a perfect way to spend some more time with horses. And being around them really does seem to help with my anxiety and stress. I tried googling some places around here, but they're websites most talking about kids with more serious issues.

As bad as it sounds usually I recommend starting with your insurance as they usually know of providers in your area that are covered.

I decided this weekend that I'm going to go to the grocery store's daily open interviews tomorrow and I can already feel the anxiety starting to kick in. I'm really going to try to my best to push through it and actually go this time. Kind of hoping I get some horse time during my bike ride tomorrow before I go. If not I'll definitely be taking some doggie time with our pups.

You got this. I know you do.

Two weeks ago I got an email from a coworker about something I did. Long story short, even though I was right I had a full on anxiety attack and had to take a pill, first one in 6 weeks. I just didn't want to have what seemed like an inevitable fight that would escalate to the company president.

He never replied back and I forgot about it.

Today he emailed again about it and my anxiety spiked again. Not as bad as last week, but still bad. I replied explaining it and am now obsessed with his reply. I just don't want to deal with the hassle and explaining it to the bosses and whatever else happens. There's been so much other shit come up that it's one more thing escalated to them and even though I'm right I'm sure I'll look bad for it.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that.

 

[wayoung]

And if course now here's the energy crash that comes from your whole body being activated and adrenaline flowing from anxiety.

I had been pretty productive yesterday and today and had somewhat decent energy (for me) today until this.

 

[fireproof78]

And if course now here's the energy crash that comes from your whole body being activated and adrenaline flowing from anxiety.

I had been pretty productive yesterday and today and had somewhat decent energy (for me) today until this.

It happens. Recovery days are OK.

I had a massive depressive crash yesterday so I sympathize.

 

[JD]

I actually got to spend some time with a couple horses this morning, and it helped me feel a bit better for a while, but the anxiety and panic still got bad as I got closer to when I was going to go to the interview, and when I talked to my mom she thought it was a bad idea. She pointed out that I've tried stores like that three times and all three times it ended badly, and she's right. I think going back to that kind of job really inevitably not going to end well. Even if the people I work with are better than other places, there are still going to be asshole customers to deal with. So now I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with something else before I run out of money. I might try to the stables one more time, and there is one other stables near by, but all I've seen of that one is what's on their website and IG page, which aren't always the best way to judge since people are going to go out of their way to make themselves look good there. I'm literally running out of money and we really can't survive on just my mom's retirement money.

 

[fireproof78]

there are still going to be asshole customers to deal with.

Is that that big of a barrier?

ETA: this is not meant to sound condescending. Just curious if you feel this would be the same level of challenge as you experienced before when you left retail?

 

[JD]

Yeah, if anything I think it might actually be worse, that kind of thing did seem to be getting to me more with each job.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, if anything I think it might actually be worse, that kind of thing did seem to be getting to me more with each job.

Customers are hard, and I get that. But, taking it personal is not necessary. It can't be personal. The customers don't care enough to make it personal.

 

[Commander Troi]

Yeah, if anything I think it might actually be worse, that kind of thing did seem to be getting to me more with each job.

Feel free to ignore me, but your anxiety is seriously impacting your ability to function in the world. You really need help with it. As I have before, I recommend contacting the Department of Economic Security, Vocational Rehabilitation division. I really think you'd qualify for help.

 

[Gryffindorian]

One of the lessons of mindfulness is to learn to sit with discomfort, or in some cases, even pain, or uncertainty, in a non-judgmental way. We don't have to label the sensation or experience as either good or bad. It just is. If we learn to do this, it will serve us well in life.

My late dad would have been happier and more balaced had he been less reactive.

 

[fireproof78]

One of the lessons of mindfulness is to learn to sit with discomfort, or in some cases, even pain, or uncertainty, in a non-judgmental way. We don't have to label the sensation or experience as either good or bad. It just is. If we learn to do this, it will serve us well in life.

My late dad would have been happier and more balaced had he been less reactive.

Indeed.

There is a reason why I don't get fussed when hungry. I recognize the feeling and take steps but I'll experience it in it's fullness as well.

 

[JD]

Customers are hard, and I get that. But, taking it personal is not necessary. It can't be personal. The customers don't care enough to make it personal.

Yeah, I really try, but I just can't even think straight in the situation as it's happening.

Feel free to ignore me, but your anxiety is seriously impacting your ability to function in the world. You really need help with it. As I have before, I recommend contacting the Department of Economic Security, Vocational Rehabilitation division. I really think you'd qualify for help.

I think I will look into that, I just found and saved the webpage for it.

 

[fireproof78]

Damn, I hate depression. It's such a fog to fight through.

Yeah, I really try, but I just can't even think straight in the situation as it's happening.

I echo what Troi is saying that some sort of professional help might be necessary. Anxiety is pretty much crippling you at this point.

 

[JD]

I guess one of the big reasons I haven't is because it's really only in those certain situations, and as long as I avoid those situations, I'm fine. And I might actually be getting a bit better, on my bike rides I've been talking to more people, and when people have been around when I've been petting or watching the horses, I've actually been able to stay calm and stay put, and haven't been panicking and taking off the moment I see them.

 

[fireproof78]

I guess one of the big reasons I haven't is because it's really only in those certain situations, and as long as I avoid those situations, I'm fine. And I might actually be getting a bit better, on my bike rides I've been talking to more people, and when people have been around when I've been petting or watching the horses, I've actually been able to stay calm and stay put, and haven't been panicking and taking off the moment I see them.

Avoidance will only get you so far, and perpetuates the anxiety cycle. I like that you say you've been getting a bit better, because that means you can recognize it and manage it. I know you can.