Man, the comments I have been reading at some boards. Don't like the jokes, doesn't hold up, haven't watched it in a super long time ... I think some people's Schwartz have gone flaccid.
Mel Brooks Returning as Yogurt in Spaceballs Sequel
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Don't be ridiculous. They'll go with a Ludicrously sized spaceship!
They'll pull back the camera to find Dark Helmet is playing with a ship model and making pew-pew noises with his mouth. A shout startles him, and he drops it as it clatters to the ground, shattering in pieces. Such a Dark Helmet thing to do!
Then they'll switch to an outside view with a camera that seemingly pulls back for what seems like forever. "Explain to me again why we need a ship this big?" Someone is heard saying.... "Oh, just because. "
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The larger ship means a larger bridge. Dark Helmet will keep flying back and back and back (or forwards).
Dark Helmet: "When do I reach the back wall already?!"
Colonel Sandurz: "Soon."
Dark Helmet: "When do I reach the back wall already?!"
Colonel Sandurz: "Soon."
I LOVE the oirignal Space Balls movies.
But after how painfully dated and 'just more of the same' that "History of the World Part II" show on Netflix was...I'm not sure I want a sequel. Plus...how can it be the same without Barf and Dottie Matrix?
Finally after seeing the characters in Star Wars all get their happy endings ruined by the new movies, I don't want the same happening to their Space Balls counterparts.
But after how painfully dated and 'just more of the same' that "History of the World Part II" show on Netflix was...I'm not sure I want a sequel. Plus...how can it be the same without Barf and Dottie Matrix?
Finally after seeing the characters in Star Wars all get their happy endings ruined by the new movies, I don't want the same happening to their Space Balls counterparts.
"Goodbye, virgin alarm."
"Smoke if you got them."
"This is a no smoking ship now, sir."
"Oh," collapses.
"This is a no smoking ship now, sir."
"Oh," collapses.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Virgin Alarm would have been retired in the new age.
Dark Helmet: "Is there anybody NOT havign sex on this ship?"
Dark Helmet: "Is there anybody NOT havign sex on this ship?"
OH! OH!
You know what I'd LOVE to see?
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Dark Helmet getting coffee from Mr. Coffee. He's impressed with the machine for some reason, and Colonel Sandurz tells him it's the new fangled "Smart technology".
Suddenly hear he's the toaster calling out to him, asking him if he wants any toast. The exchange goes on and he gets pissed off about it.
It's Talky the Toaster from "Red Dwarf" Kryton steps in.
"Sorry, sir, he does that," unplugs the toaster and picks it up, "That's a bad toaster!".
"Go toast yourself!"
You know what I'd LOVE to see?
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Dark Helmet getting coffee from Mr. Coffee. He's impressed with the machine for some reason, and Colonel Sandurz tells him it's the new fangled "Smart technology".
Suddenly hear he's the toaster calling out to him, asking him if he wants any toast. The exchange goes on and he gets pissed off about it.
It's Talky the Toaster from "Red Dwarf" Kryton steps in.
"Sorry, sir, he does that," unplugs the toaster and picks it up, "That's a bad toaster!".
"Go toast yourself!"
Smart technology: When even the self-destructs don't work.
I see three issues with Spaceballs II: The Search for More Money:
1) The original movie doesn't really have a plot. It's more just a joke delivery system with just enough plot to string it all together. There's not a whole lotta there there to make a story where it'll make sense to have the cast together again.
2) Just as you observed, the loss of John Candy and Joan Rivers is going to be acutely felt. I can already bet they're going to try to get some "big name" comedians to fill the roles, and it may just fall flat, leading me to my final point:
3) Why I felt History of the World Part II ultimately failed was the over-reliance on referential jokes to contemporary media. You'd have to have seen Peter Jackson's Beatles documentary, a lot of modern reality TV, etc for any of it to really land. And every time they tried to refer back to the first movie, it really fell flat.
Contrast that with the first movie which had much more timeless jokes. Apart from references to 2001 and The Ten Commandments, which predated the film by decades, there's not a ton of referential humor. It's comedy that fits the situation or comments on the historical period. The movie works because you don't necessarily have to do a bunch of pop culture homework to understand it. Part II is the antithesis of that type of comedy.
However, when I saw the new trailer for the Naked Gun remake, it gave me some hope that there are writers that still understand classic styles of comedy that doesn't need to ironically reference shit all the time. If Spaceballs II can accomplish that, I would be happy. But... the overall trend makes me skeptical.
Those are all really great points. And regarding your first point, nostalgia is likely to be its main selling point and I have a feeling it's going to lean hard on it, and possibly even make some of the same jokes as the first time around. I guess one way around the thin story would be to build a backstory of what's happened since the first movie as a bit of background I think would help a lot.
And yes, my other worry is that it's going to be too contemporary.
And yes, my other worry is that it's going to be too contemporary.
Ship- Self destruct in 5,4,3
“Im sorry your free 90 day trial has expired. Please select a plan to continue self destruct “
If Mel Brooks wants to make a Spaceballs sequel before he dies, then get the hell out of his way and let him do it.
Uh...yes it did? The evil Space Balls Empire pursues and ultimately kidnaps the runaway princess of the Planet Druidia to force her father to surrender Duridia's air to their own, air-insufficient planet. Said princess is aided by a space trucker and his mog who were hired by her father to bring her back to the planet. While stranded on a desert planet the trucker and the princess fall in love and the trucker is inducted in the mystical ways of the Schwartz by the wise Yoghurt. The Space Balls take them all prisoner which leads to a sequence of jail breaks and infiltrations that culminate in a show-down aboard the Mega Maid above the skies of Druidia. The princess and planet are saved, the Space Balls are defeated, and the space trucker, who's really a space prince and the princess get to marry.
It's not the Lord of the Rings, but saying "this doesn't really have a plot"...isn't true.
It's a coherent story that has a beginning, climax, and ending. The characters have motivations and defined personalities.
It's just told in a humorous way with many, excellent jokes.
I'm not trying to tout Space Balls as some epic tale here, I always just find it really weird when people claim something that has a plot (however simple) doesn't have one.
And I'd say it'd be easy enough to build a sequel on the first movie, I just think they shouldn't, at least not 40 years later.
I agree with that, but I still say the humour was very dated. Like, for example, the sketch about the cave women inventing fire just so they could smoke pot. I mean really a joke that just amounts to "hurhurhur geddit, it's marijuana!" in a day and age when it has been both legalised and normalised in so many places? Jokes like that just seemed like they belonged in the 70s or 80s, when they would have been "risqué"
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You'll find that that claim is generally never true. There are in fact movies with no plot, but the "it had no plot" crowd never targets them.