Meaning of the Enterprise [possible plot spoilers]

[TheSubCommander]

If you watch the trailer frame by frame, the port nacelle can be seen falling off it's pylon, followed by a flaming saucer section plummeting towards the planet... I'd say that's 100%

I agree it appears the Enterprise is 100% destroyed based on the trailer and I don't know how it could survive such damage credibly to be salvaged, but wouldn't be the first time we've been misdirected. Star Wars TFA, for example, had scenes in the trailer,that were cut from the movie.

 

[BillJ]

I agree it appears the Enterprise is 100% destroyed based on the trailer and I don't know how it could survive such damage credibly to be salvaged, but wouldn't be the first time we've been misdirected. Star Wars TFA, for example, had scenes in the trailer,that were cut from the movie.

That seems to be a pivotal part of the film though, "we have no ship, no crew".

I don't mind the Enterprise going down, as long as it's done in spectacular fashion. Though I doubt any death scene can match the one in The Search for Spock.

 

[ancient]

I suspect that the movie guys in charge now decided they want a new ship, so they nuked the old one. Does anyone really have a strong emotional connection to this ship?

 

[TheSubCommander]

That seems to be a pivotal part of the film though, "we have no ship, no crew".

I don't mind the Enterprise going down, as long as it's done in spectacular fashion. Though I doubt any death scene can match the one in The Search for Spock.

Agreed!

The TSFS Enterprise self destruct cound't have been done better. The destruction of Enterprise-D and Defiant pale in comparison.

 

[KhanSolo]

Agreed!

The TSFS Enterprise self destruct cound't have been done better. The destruction of Enterprise-D and Defiant pale in comparison.

Someone once told me, it wasn't a Bird of Prey that destroyed the Enterprise D, it was bad writing lololol

 

[KhanSolo]

I suspect that the movie guys in charge now decided they want a new ship, so they nuked the old one. Does anyone really have a strong emotional connection to this ship?

Nah, I don't even like the design of JJ Enterprise. I get they were going for a hotrod look and style, but they've taken too many design elements out of the Enterprise refit. And it's also nearly the size of the Enterprise D.

 

[Timby]

The TSFS Enterprise self destruct cound't have been done better.

The scenes on board the ship are pretty much pitch-perfect and some of the few good scenes Nimoy ever did. I've never been impressed with the actual destruction scene effects, particularly that incredibly dodgy bit when the stardrive section starts flying at the Genesis Planet.

 

[KhanSolo]

The scenes on board the ship are pretty much pitch-perfect and some of the few good scenes Nimoy ever did. I've never been impressed with the actual destruction scene effects, particularly that incredibly dodgy bit when the stardrive section starts flying at the Genesis Planet.

Keep in mind, TWOK didn't have the biggest special effects budget.

 

[eyeresist]

Personally, I don't consider the TMP, WoK, SfS Enterprise to be the same as the TOS ship (same design concepts but a 100% different look and in TMP they even call it "an almost totally new Enterprise")

Yes, I never bought that it was the same ship, although some fans really want to believe it is.
My interpretation of Scotty's line would be that it is actually a new Enterprise, and it's almost completely different to the ship Kirk knew.
Two movies later, the Enterprise is 20 years old -- that was a different ship. Possibly the TOS movies take place in multiple universes?

Regarding feeling attached to the new ship, I do like it, and we've seen the same interior over two movies, which is more than could be said for most of the TOS movie bridges.

 

[KhanSolo]

Regarding feeling attached to the new ship, I do like it, and we've seen the same interior over two movies, which is more than could be said for most of the TOS movie bridges.

HAHA good point. I feel like the Enterprise refit and A had a different bridge in every movie

 

[SPCTRE]

Though I doubt any death scene can match the one in The Search for Spock.

I feel that a lot of the emotional heft is really inseparably linked to our emotional attachment to a very popular character we've known for a long, long time.

I'm reasonably sure it's a really good death scene even in a vacuum though, so, agreed.

 

[The Wormhole]

HAHA good point. I feel like the Enterprise refit and A had a different bridge in every movie

It actually was the same bridge for the first three movies, and the Enterprise A had the same bridge at the end of TVH. TFF and TUC each had their own bridge.

 

[fireproof78]

I suspect that the movie guys in charge now decided they want a new ship, so they nuked the old one. Does anyone really have a strong emotional connection to this ship?

Yes

 

[Dukhat]

I suspect that the movie guys in charge now decided they want a new ship, so they nuked the old one. Does anyone really have a strong emotional connection to this ship?

None whatsoever.

 

[STEPhon IT]

The meaning is in the trailer. As the ship is being shredded we hear: "This is where the Frontier pushes back, Kirk." They boldly go where no one has gone before and get their asses handed to them.

Just like all previous times the Enterprise gets destroyed the enemy had some element of surprise going for them. In this case it is swarms of razor sharp ninja stars capable of slicing and dicing the ship to pieces.

Seems it'll be pretty hard to defeat something like that. So maybe Spock can pound the creator of those ninja starships to death to save the day.

 

[shapeshifter]

Or at least burst his eardrums with some high octave shouting.

 

[Mudd]

I suspect that the movie guys in charge now decided they want a new ship, so they nuked the old one. Does anyone really have a strong emotional connection to this ship?

None to any Trek ship other than the Enterprise as it appeared in the original TV series.

 

[KhanSolo]

None to any Trek ship other than the Enterprise as it appeared in the original TV series.

I mean I was pretty attached to the Enterprise D...

 

[F. King Daniel]

^Seeing the Enterprise-D destroyed was HUGE... In "Time Squared". After "Cause and Effect" I don't think an Enterprise blowing up will so much as make me blink.

 

[The Wormhole]

The Enterprise D was destroyed so often during TNG's run, seven episodes by my count, and in two those it's destroyed multiple times (Cause and Effect, All Good Things). Also, the Galaxy class Yamato was destroyed in Contagion. Add to that, a few months prior to Generations being released we had also seen the Galaxy class Odyssey destroyed on DS9, and yeah, the actual destruction of the Enterprise D in Generations doesn't really have any impact. Don't get me wrong, the saucer crash sequence is a really well-done scene that still rivals effect sequences in movies of today, IMO, but seeing the Enterprise destroyed didn't really feel like the significant event it should have been.