Meaning of the Enterprise [possible plot spoilers]
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The TWOK bridge looked very different to the TMP bridge. I don't know the specifcs, but it had a new paint job at least. I barely remember the TSFS bridge except that it was lit red for the most memorable scenes.
Who is this "everyone" you refer to?
On that note, it reminds me the Enterprise D's bridge in Generations is basically the bridge from Yesterday's Enterprise done on a better budget and the knowledge "we don't have to tear this down and go back to normal next week."
There may have been some changes, but it's still the exact same set, which was also used for other Starfleet ships in the first four movies (Reliant, Grissom, Saratoga) as well as several other bridges or other rooms throughout TNG.
I guess you are talking about the basic framework. This was redressed and altered multiple times to represent multiple ships, as well as to "improve" the Enterprise bridge according to the desires of the director of the day. While the basic frame may have stayed the same, the appearance did vary significantly.
Unfortunately I couldn't find an online comparison of the TOS bridges, but this is an interesting look at how Trek sets were reused over the years:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/reused_ship_interiors.htm
Not me, for one - I liked it.
Nightowl, perhaps you could stick to expressing your own opinions without presuming to speak for a bunch of other folks who may not, in fact, agree with you on all points? And the lazy "Apple Store interiors" thing: that was worn out five years ago. If you feel you really must criticize the interior set design, try for something less clichéd which actually addresses specific design elements.
I didn't give my opinion in my previous post, but I like the Nu ship too. It gives one the sense of glimpsing the gleaming future - something I feel hasn't been seen in Trek since TOS.
You're right - I was out of line. I've deleted the post.
I loved that - like Kirk or Spock dying in engineering to save the ship battling Khan, the Enterprise-D will always be destroyed via warp core breach in a battle with a Klingon Bird of Prey (or three), whatever the timeline. YMMV.
It is difficult to bond with a ship we haven't really seen on screen for more than a few hours, regardless of how much time is supposed to pass in the movie universe. TOS Kirk had two seasons to connect with the Enterprise- that connection became a plot device in a couple of episode to help him override superimposed emotions.
The destruction of the D did not really shake me too much- it went down mostly to an obligation of resetting the Next Gen movies into a ship designed more for the big screen, just like the Refit. The entire 'Generations' movie was just going through a necessary story to set the stage for later films. I felt more for the destruction of the Yamato, watching that burning saucer tumble towards the viewscreen.
It does seem obvious that the NuEnterprise does not make it in the next film unless the pull a 'Year of Hell' reset at the end of the film. It does not bother me much- I don't care a lot for the new design and I do hope they will use this opportunity to come up with something different this time. No emotional connection here.
The destruction of the D did not really shake me too much- it went down mostly to an obligation of resetting the Next Gen movies into a ship designed more for the big screen, just like the Refit. The entire 'Generations' movie was just going through a necessary story to set the stage for later films. I felt more for the destruction of the Yamato, watching that burning saucer tumble towards the viewscreen.
It does seem obvious that the NuEnterprise does not make it in the next film unless the pull a 'Year of Hell' reset at the end of the film. It does not bother me much- I don't care a lot for the new design and I do hope they will use this opportunity to come up with something different this time. No emotional connection here.
For sure, the destruction of the Yamato still gets me to this day.
Agreed. Not only was it set up well, but it was fabulously executed and the effects were perfect. Hard to imagine the shoestring budget they had for a single scene in one episode's teaser beating a feature film budget, but it does. And by a wide margin.
This is OT, but... I love the subsequent briefing in which LaForge described the Yamato's core breach, and Picard was incredulous. "But that's impossible," he said. I wish it had remained so.
Core breaches became such a cliché in the TNG era. The E-D could never have been in TWOK. After the first attack, the crew would be in lifeboats after the core went belly up. I guess they just don't make 'em like they used to...
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