We have been in a recession for nearly a year.
Maybe Republicans Are Starting To Make A Comeback
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You really think Obama is going to overturn the patriot act?
Not a chance.
The Patriot Act is overturned.
Then a major terrorist attack strikes the U.S.
Whether such a terrorist attack might have been prevented or not, the conventional wisdom will be
"The Patriot Act kept the U.S. safe for years. Obama got it overturned. Look what happened!!"
The Democrats go from rising majority party to out of power for a decade or more. Obama starts shaking down donors for his library early.
The USA PATRIOT Act (must not forget it is an absurd acronym) is an abomination pissing on the US Constitution and it has done NOTHING to prevent another 9/11-style attack on the US.
It needs to go away, now.
You really think Obama is going to overturn the patriot act?
Not a chance.
The Patriot Act is overturned.
Then a major terrorist attack strikes the U.S.
Whether such a terrorist attack might have been prevented or not, the conventional wisdom will be
"The Patriot Act kept the U.S. safe for years. Obama got it overturned. Look what happened!!"
The Democrats go from rising majority party to out of power for a decade or more. Obama starts shaking down donors for his library early.
The USA PATRIOT Act (must not forget it is an absurd acronym) is an abomination pissing on the US Constitution and it has done NOTHING to prevent another 9/11-style attack on the US.
It needs to go away, now.
Well, it's probably fair to say that PORTIONS of the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 have helped battle terrorism. Those parts can stay.
But things like letting the government get its hands on your library records just on its own say-so? Fuck that shit. It's pissing on the Constitution, as you say.
Exactly.
Myself, I could do without the "other uses" bit.
To quote Penn and Teller "that kind of loose language shouldn't be allowed on a library card."
You have proof of this?
Have you actually read the Patriot Act? And do you honestly think they wrote all of that up in a day?
Why should he read it?
The people who voted it in didn't read it!
Have you actually read the Patriot Act? And do you honestly think they wrote all of that up in a day?
I'm too busy dodging the Secret Police and roadblocks not to mention being worried about hauled off to one of the governments domestic concentration camps to be troubled reading the Patriot Act.
Have you actually read the Patriot Act? And do you honestly think they wrote all of that up in a day?
I'm too busy dodging the Secret Police and roadblocks not to mention being worried about hauled off to one of the governments domestic concentration camps to be troubled reading the Patriot Act.
Wow.
That failed to either be funny or intelligent...
The Republicans in power are politically far right, economically Libertarian crooks that in the last nightmarish eight years have destroyed the social fabric of the United States through their grotesque avarice, ignorance, and arrogance. Iraq is a top down fuck up, Katrina was a international embarassment, Middle America is crumbling before our eyes, the greedy corporatists and the dogmatic Christain Right were not curtailed, and the GOP in the last three decades helped to destroy the Western economy.
Oh look, Dayton3's fearless leader is blatantly poisoning the well.
Oh look, Dayton3's fearless leader is blatantly poisoning the well.
Really?
I guess that then would account for the United States having far and away the largest economy in the world. Bigger than the next two combined.
It should.
Expecting the U.S. to maintain the economic dominance it had in the two decades after World War II when most of the world was still rebuilding is ridiculous.
By the way.
What country has the largest economy now?
The United States
What country has the second largest economy now?
China
What country had the largest economy in 1890?
The United States
What country had the second largest economy in 1890?
China.
So I see little need to panic.
But they're increasing at about 10% a month and we're shrinking or holding flat at best. That hasn't happened yet. The only reason why China hasn't already over taken us is because they were Maoist Communists for 50 of the past 60 years. They've now embraced a weird capitalist hybrid and their economy is exploding.
You know, it's in a history book.
ETA: You also pulled those 1890 GDPs out of your ass. In 1870 the US was FIFTH behind the British Empire, China, British India, and the United Kingdom. In 1913 the US still wasn't first. In the 1950s the US had risen to a distant 1st and China had plummeted to 7th. Infact, it wasn't until the last decade that your US-1, China-2 scenario happened. So yes, things can GASP, change.
History book. Open one up.
You know, it's in a history book.
ETA: You also pulled those 1890 GDPs out of your ass. In 1870 the US was FIFTH behind the British Empire, China, British India, and the United Kingdom. In 1913 the US still wasn't first. In the 1950s the US had risen to a distant 1st and China had plummeted to 7th. Infact, it wasn't until the last decade that your US-1, China-2 scenario happened. So yes, things can GASP, change.
History book. Open one up.
And yet it was voted on (meaning a Yes vote) by a majority of Democrats.You really think Obama is going to overturn the patriot act?
Not a chance.
The Patriot Act is overturned.
Then a major terrorist attack strikes the U.S.
Whether such a terrorist attack might have been prevented or not, the conventional wisdom will be
"The Patriot Act kept the U.S. safe for years. Obama got it overturned. Look what happened!!"
The Democrats go from rising majority party to out of power for a decade or more. Obama starts shaking down donors for his library early.
The USA PATRIOT Act (must not forget it is an absurd acronym) is an abomination pissing on the US Constitution and it has done NOTHING to prevent another 9/11-style attack on the US.
It needs to go away, now.
China is running into serious problems with now. Recession is hitting them as well.
Wanna pull some more facts out of thin air to prove that?
At the turn of the centry wasn't Great Britain and it's empire more or less as wealthy as the United States, with much of China's wealth being localized into several enclaves that were almost entirely owned by the Western powers?
I think it is delusional that the Republicans are going to be back in power with just the next eight years after the damage they've done to America; they've only been popular with voters with their appeal to religious tradition and anti-terrorist laws, but not with their corrosive economic policies that they have been obscured through seemingly generous tax breaks and that's what killed them (and the economy of course).
I think it is delusional that the Republicans are going to be back in power with just the next eight years after the damage they've done to America; they've only been popular with voters with their appeal to religious tradition and anti-terrorist laws, but not with their corrosive economic policies that they have been obscured through seemingly generous tax breaks and that's what killed them (and the economy of course).
Somehow I can't see that happening....Have you actually read the Patriot Act? And do you honestly think they wrote all of that up in a day?
I'm too busy dodging the Secret Police and roadblocks not to mention being worried about hauled off to one of the governments domestic concentration camps to be troubled reading the Patriot Act.