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Matthew Vaughn's The Golden Age in development

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Matthew Vaughn is developing a superhero movie called The Golden Age (with no connection to the DC graphic novel of the same name) about elderly superheroes in a retirement home. From Deadline Hollywood:

Kick-Ass and X-Men: First Class writer/director/producer Matthew Vaughn tells me that a major Hollywood studio is very keen to fully fund his next big project: The Golden Age about a retirement home where superheroes end up. And the title is also a reference to early comic books of the 1930s when Superman and Batman first appeared. It's based on the yet-to-be-published comic book written by Brit TV chat show host Jonathan Ross, who’s a huge comics buff. Vaughn is currently in LA editing X-Men: First Class for Fox, but tells me he wants to get actors attached to the new project before the script is written. His wish list is Clint Eastwood, Jack Nicholson, and Warren Beatty to play the retired superheroes who help out their grandchildren when their middle-aged parent screw up the world.

Vaughn believes the success of The Expendables and Red shows that audiences are open to the idea of older action heroes. “You have these great star names and they’re mainly playing supporting roles now. I want to give them the lead again and let them have some fun.”

It’s not certain whether Vaughn's wife Jane Goldman, who has co-written X-Men: First Class and Kick-Ass for Vaughn to direct, will be penning this one, though. Vaughn says he may hire other writers. And he may not direct it himself either. He may produce The Golden Age. Vaughn started out in life as Guy Ritchie’s producer and then turned director.
 
^ Trivia police: Jane Goldman is actually Ross's wife, not Vaughn's wife. Vaughn is married to Claudia Schiffer, IIRC.

Sounds like an intriguing plot - X-Men meets Watchmen meets Space Cowboys. And Vaughn can do no wrong for me at the minute.
 
Haha that's a funny error. Interesting project. He's also been thinking about Mark Millar's "American Jesus" as his next directorial project...he was debating about directing it in 2009. I guess he might have passed on it.
 
Vaughn on the superhero movie from last summer, LAT:

“It’s been mined to death and in some cases the quality control is not what it’s supposed to be,” Vaughn said. “People are just going to get bored of it.”

... “I’ve always wanted to do a big-budget superhero film and I think we’ve kind of crossed the Rubicon with superhero films,” Vaughn said. “I think [the opportunity to do one], it’s only going to be there two or three more times.”

“Then,” he added, “the genre is going to be dead for a while because the audience has just been pummeled too much.”
"Except, The Expendables and RED both made a lot of money, so maybe I can pummel the audience with a ripoff of both just one last time. You know, for old time's sake. Hey, these director's Porsches don't buy themselves. So I'll just bore you guys once again with the old people, then I'll be done. Well, after I do the follow-up superheroes with midlife crises trilogy, that is. That'll be it. Except for Kick-Ass 2. Because superhero movies are played out. Which is why I'll only produce the prequel to this old-people superhero movie instead of making it myself. I'll still rake in a decent amount of cash that way, so don't worry about the ol' MV, you hear?"

"Remember, audience-baby: I only hit you because I love you."
 
Vaughn on the superhero movie from last summer, LAT:

“It’s been mined to death and in some cases the quality control is not what it’s supposed to be,” Vaughn said. “People are just going to get bored of it.”

... “I’ve always wanted to do a big-budget superhero film and I think we’ve kind of crossed the Rubicon with superhero films,” Vaughn said. “I think [the opportunity to do one], it’s only going to be there two or three more times.”

“Then,” he added, “the genre is going to be dead for a while because the audience has just been pummeled too much.”
"Except, The Expendables and RED both made a lot of money, so maybe I can pummel the audience with a ripoff of both just one last time. You know, for old time's sake. Hey, these director's Porsches don't buy themselves. So I'll just bore you guys once again with the old people, then I'll be done. Well, after I do the follow-up superheroes with midlife crises trilogy, that is. That'll be it. Except for Kick-Ass 2. Because superhero movies are played out. Which is why I'll only produce the prequel to this old-people superhero movie instead of making it myself. I'll still rake in a decent amount of cash that way, so don't worry about the ol' MV, you hear?"

"Remember, audience-baby: I only hit you because I love you."

Maybe, just maybe, he's taken on a different perspective since working on a few superhero films.

Then again, if you look at the superhero films he has done, they are not exactly your typical superhero film. Kick-Ass was a complete send-up of the genre. X-Men: First Class is going against the grain by having it be a period piece and fully embracing it. And it looks like this Golden Age is focusing on older, retired heroes.

Vaughn might still feel the same about superhero films, but what he is doing is trying to break new ground or take the genre in new, different directions.
 
Kick-Ass was not a sendup. It started that way but finished as a total wish fulfilment fantasy triumphantly sounding every cliche it could reasonably fit in.
 
^ Quite. Broccoli, you could make similar excuses for virtually any superhero movie. Fantastic Four: but it's really light-hearted! Batman Begins: but it's really dark! Incredible Hulk: but the hero doesn't control his super-ness!

Look, I love superhero movies as much as the next guy, but let's not kid ourselves; this idea goes squarely against the spirit of his earlier remarks.
 
Kick-Ass was not a sendup. It started that way but finished as a total wish fulfilment fantasy triumphantly sounding every cliche it could reasonably fit in.

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^ Quite. Broccoli, you could make similar excuses for virtually any superhero movie. Fantastic Four: but it's really light-hearted! Batman Begins: but it's really dark! Incredible Hulk: but the hero doesn't control his super-ness!

Look, I love superhero movies as much as the next guy, but let's not kid ourselves; this idea goes squarely against the spirit of his earlier remarks.

I am not making excuses. I find fault in your argument as you are mainly talking about the tone of the movies, whereas I was mainly referring to fundamental aspects of the story that go against what is generally considered mainstream.

In any event, who cares? Honestly? If it goes against his earlier statements, who really gives a crap? Does that make his films less/more enjoyable? No. Clearly, he either changed his outlook on superhero films or found a new way to look at them. Just because you have an apparent hard-on of hate for the guy doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to change his mind or continue to make films in a particular genre.
 
I know it's early to talk about casting this movie, but I'd love to see it go one of two possible ways.

One, he casts total icons in the main roles. Redford, Beatty, Eastwood, Connery, Poitier, Diana Rigg, Raquel Welch.

Two, he goes down the line of old cult actors. Adam West, Shatner, George Lazenby, Richard Roundtree etc. I know this would never happen but it would be my preferred option!
 
I know it's early to talk about casting this movie, but I'd love to see it go one of two possible ways.

One, he casts total icons in the main roles. Redford, Beatty, Eastwood, Connery, Poitier, Diana Rigg, Raquel Welch.

Two, he goes down the line of old cult actors. Adam West, Shatner, George Lazenby, Richard Roundtree etc. I know this would never happen but it would be my preferred option!

It would probably be cheaper....
 
Just because you have an apparent hard-on of hate for the guy doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to change his mind or continue to make films in a particular genre.
Whoa there, cowboy, why not holder that six-shooter and have yerself an extra cold sasparilla. I only pointed out an amusing bit of self-contradiction; it's not as though I called his preteen daughter a trollop. ;)


Kick-Ass was not a sendup. It started that way but finished as a total wish fulfilment fantasy triumphantly sounding every cliche it could reasonably fit in.

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So... cliches aren't cliches if you make a few meta jokes early on? If that's the joke, then who is it on? :p
 
Just because you have an apparent hard-on of hate for the guy doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to change his mind or continue to make films in a particular genre.
Whoa there, cowboy, why not holder that six-shooter and have yerself an extra cold sasparilla. I only pointed out an amusing bit of self-contradiction; it's not as though I called his preteen daughter a trollop. ;)

Your contempt-filled rant (where you nonsensically went on saying he is "pummel[ing] the audience" so he can buy expensive cars) would suggest something beyond simple self-contradiction.

Kick-Ass was not a sendup. It started that way but finished as a total wish fulfilment fantasy triumphantly sounding every cliche it could reasonably fit in.

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So... cliches aren't cliches if you make a few meta jokes early on? If that's the joke, then who is it on? :p
Cliches are still cliches at all times. However, when used intentionally and, in Kick-Ass's case, needlessly over the top, that's what turns it into a joke.

Whether you find it funny is, of course, another matter. For instance, lots of people find Two and a Half Men funny. I, while realizing it is suppose to be a comedy, do not. Does that mean it isn't a comedy? No. I see how the show is trying to be funny, but it just is not to me.
 
Your contempt-filled rant (where you nonsensically went on saying he is "pummel[ing] the audience" so he can buy expensive cars) would suggest something beyond simple self-contradiction.
I was merely mirroring his own language.
 
Your contempt-filled rant (where you nonsensically went on saying he is "pummel[ing] the audience" so he can buy expensive cars) would suggest something beyond simple self-contradiction.
I was merely mirroring his own language.

No, not really.

His comments were civil on how he thinks the superhero genre was heading towards burn-out due to what he saw as audience irritation over a lack of quality (while also commenting that he wanted to do a big-budget superhero film - which he has now done in the form of First Class).

You, on the other hand, paint him as a sniveling brat having a temper-tantrum who is only after money, doesn't care about what he makes, and has contempt for his audience.
 
His comments were civil
Well, yeah, he wasn't attacking anyone, but:
Vaughn said:
It’s been mined to death

People are just going to get bored

we’ve kind of crossed the Rubicon

only going to be there two or three more times.

the genre is going to be dead

the audience has just been pummeled too much.
That's some hard-ass language right there.


Okay, you're right, I wasn't merely mirroring his language, I was mirroring his language while making a point in a humorous manner, for the purposes of which I drew a caricature in order to maximize said humor, the goal being a laugh or soft chuckle, which is a physiological response to amusement (a human emotion which involves a contrast between comfort and its opposite).

You, on the other hand, paint him as a sniveling brat having a temper-tantrum who is only after money, doesn't care about what he makes, and has contempt for his audience.
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Jokes are still allowed on the BBS, right? Or will the mods have to regulate on my ass here?
 
Whoever writes the script will have more to do with how good Golden Age than Matthew Vaughan. If they just hire a bunch of writers to write bits and pieces Matthew Vaughan puts together, the movie will be unwritten. In which case, SFX not being improv, the movie will be very bad.

If Kick-Ass had ended with the gangster arrested for income tax evasion, Hit-Girl seeing a child shrink and what's-her-name arranging man dates for her gay best friend in between shtupping the drug dealer, then maybe it would be a sendup.
 
If Kick-Ass had ended with the gangster arrested for income tax evasion, Hit-Girl seeing a child shrink and what's-her-name arranging man dates for her gay best friend in between shtupping the drug dealer, then maybe it would be a sendup.
Exactly. It's like people saying the movie Starship Troopers is a scathing anti-war satire, when that's only true of the first half, before the heroes, in pulp-hero fashion, seem to actually achieve a heroic victory. If it'd ended at the beginning of the final mission with everyone getting blown up by a defective human-made bomb, that'd have been a satire full-through. It would probably have killed any chance for box office success, granted, and one might say the same for your take on Kick-Ass, but the fact that genuine and pungent action satires aren't financially viable doesn't mean we should call halfway efforts the real deal.
 
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