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Matthew Graham to write for Series Fred+1?

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I'm sure there's worse in the entire run of Who overall, but yes the worst episode of the new series.

That said I hated Helen Raynors Dalek 2 parter but thought her Sontaran effort was loads better. also wasn't Fear Her kinda a quick write to replace Fry's episode? I don't like to write any writer off based on just one episode.
 
He's the man responsible for Fear Her? He should be blacklisted. Maybe they'll keep him on to make Chris Chibnall look good.

That said, I wouldn't have been too thrilled to have Stephen Fry write one. I doubt he's capable somehow. Just would have been for the sake of a (irritatingly unavoidable) celebrity name.
 
Given that 'Fear Her' is hands-down the single worst episode not just of the New Series but of all DW
"Given" my ass. You get today's Hyperbole Award. I can think of at least ten stories worse than "Fear Her". Ok, five.

That said, I wouldn't have been too thrilled to have Stephen Fry write one. I doubt he's capable somehow.
What happened to you, man? Your mind is usually brimful with enthusiasm and remains wide open to surprises at all times. You've changed. ;)
 
Given that 'Fear Her' is hands-down the single worst episode not just of the New Series but of all DW
"Given" my ass. You get today's Hyperbole Award. I can think of at least ten stories worse than "Fear Her". Ok, five.

That said, I wouldn't have been too thrilled to have Stephen Fry write one. I doubt he's capable somehow.
What happened to you, man? Your mind is usually brimful with enthusiasm and remains wide open to surprises at all times. You've changed. ;)

:guffaw: Fantastic! I am sometimes quite relived at how positive a person I am compared to certain others.

Interesting to note that while Fear Her is damn bad, I love Ashes to Ashes, so he can't always be a bad writer, and why do the writers get the short end of the stick anyway? I mean we laud and despise them and never seem to recognise that other things make an episode good/bad.

I mean Blink is brilliant, but it isn't only brilliant because of the script, its made by the acting (esp ms Mulligan) the music, the direction, the design of the weeping angels etc etc.

Maybe if they'd got a decent actress to play chloe in FH, and maybe if the director hadn't directed it like a low budget Sarah Jane episode, well maybe it wouldn't have been quite as bad...maybe :shifty:
 
Maybe if they'd got a decent actress to play chloe in FH, and maybe if the director hadn't directed it like a low budget Sarah Jane episode, well maybe it wouldn't have been quite as bad...maybe :shifty:
I actually think that, had "Fear Her" been a Sarah Jane episode, the same people who hate the episode would praise it for being "true to the spirit of the old show" or some similar balderdash.
 
Well I do actually hate Fear Her, sorry but it's true, while I love Sarah Jane, thing is the kids in Sarah Jane can, on the whole, act! :lol:
 
Well I do actually hate Fear Her, sorry but it's true, while I love Sarah Jane, thing is the kids in Sarah Jane can, on the whole, act! :lol:
Yeah but in "Fear Her" there's a whole great um... there's that scene with the... you know, there's that funny scene... that funny line, I should say, about the... Ok I got nothing.
 
By all accounts the problem with Fear Her is that it was commissioned for the 2007 season, and had to be pulled forward when Stephen Fry's episode for 2006 fell through. So it wasn't far off a first draft. Life on Mars shows that Matthew Graham can do much better (similarly, though I didn't like his work on Torchwood season one, Chris Chibnal gets a bye for any weaknesses in 42 as he suddenly had to deliver a month early when production of 42 and Utopia had to be swap to fit round Derek Jacobi's schedule).
 
Well I do actually hate Fear Her, sorry but it's true, while I love Sarah Jane, thing is the kids in Sarah Jane can, on the whole, act! :lol:
Yeah but in "Fear Her" there's a whole great um... there's that scene with the... you know, there's that funny scene... that funny line, I should say, about the... Ok I got nothing.

the manly hairs on the back of my hand line and the bit about fingers-on-lips i like. and the thing about not being a cat person after being threatened by one in a nun's outfit.
 
The single best thing about "Fear Her" is the sexual tension between the Doctor and Rose. That, and it re-introduced me to the song "Kukabara" after having not heard it since I was a little kid.

Apart from that, it's a bit rubbish, yeah.
 
Maybe if they'd got a decent actress to play chloe in FH, and maybe if the director hadn't directed it like a low budget Sarah Jane episode, well maybe it wouldn't have been quite as bad...maybe :shifty:

I agree that it failed on multiple fronts.


Been busy for awhile. Where did "Series Fred" come from?

Because the BBC seems to be calling the next series, Series 1, people aren't sure if it's Series 1, or Series 5, or Series 31 or do the Specials count as a Series, and so on that it's easier just to says Series Fred (though who coined it exactly I'm not sure).
 
Been busy for awhile. Where did "Series Fred" come from?

Because the BBC seems to be calling the next series, Series 1, people aren't sure if it's Series 1, or Series 5, or Series 31 or do the Specials count as a Series, and so on that it's easier just to says Series Fred (though who coined it exactly I'm not sure).
And of course "Fred" comes from The Ribos Operation.

As for Matthew Graham, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If Helen Raynor and Chris Chibnall can both prove themselves as good writers after scripting garbage, there's no reason why Graham can't either.
 
Been busy for awhile. Where did "Series Fred" come from?

Because the BBC seems to be calling the next series, Series 1, people aren't sure if it's Series 1, or Series 5, or Series 31 or do the Specials count as a Series, and so on that it's easier just to says Series Fred (though who coined it exactly I'm not sure).
And of course "Fred" comes from The Ribos Operation.

Ahhh, I'm not as up on my classic Who.
 
The single best thing about "Fear Her" is the sexual tension between the Doctor and Rose.
Yeah, we really needed that. No one felt beaten over the head by it by that point yet.

That's like saying you feel beaten over the head by good food or air. Doctor/Rose sexual tension is always a good thing. :bolian:

Oh! TOS fans should appreciate at least one thing about "Fear Her," though: It was only the second episode of the new Doctor Who to feature a reference to the Doctor having once been a father (and, by implication, a grandfather), and the first in which he says it to a companion. (The first was "The Empty Child," where the Doctor says he knows what he's talking about to Doctor Constantine's remark that before the war, he was a father and a grandfather, but he is still a doctor.)
 
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