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Matt Smith Regenerating in Next Series

Well, on the evidence so far, I'd say Smith is the best Doctor for 30 years, and he's up against some tough opposition. (Not Tennant though, whose portrayal quickly became irritating.) So I hope he'll be around for a good few seasons yet.

Interesting to read some of the comments on previous Doctors in this thread. Strange perceptions. I've always seen Hartnell as a more comical Doctor than Troughton, for instance.
 
Interesting to read some of the comments on previous Doctors in this thread. Strange perceptions. I've always seen Hartnell as a more comical Doctor than Troughton, for instance.

Really? That's odd. Troughton was very in-your-face about the comic aspects of the role in his later serials (not so much in the beginning), especially in his last season. It sometimes borders borders on overacting, in my opinion. His costume (e.g. trousers too large) gives the character a more comic touch, too.
 
The old series contradicts itself on the matter, anyway. In The War Games, there wasn't any limit to the number of regenerations and the Doctor clearly stated that Timelords could esssentially live forever. So, how could falling back on this be an insult? They created the regeneration limit to have a dramatic story and they will discard it for the same reason some day should the need arise. Only very few people, in the grand scheme of things, care about it, anyway.
I think that the regen limit could have been introduced by a pious administration sometime after the Doctor's departure from Gallifrey. If that's the case, it's easy to see why the megalomaniacal Rassilon would have removed it during the Time War. When you think about it, the Doctor seems to have been burning through them like there's no tomorrow lately.

The question of mortality and "real" sacrifice / danger would be easy to tackle. Just establish that regeneration is no defence against severe head trauma or electrocution and you're there!

Also, Matt Smith should stay on until at least the end of season seven, and by "season" I mean a number of episodes that takes about eight or nine months, if not more, to record.
 
I've no idea who he is or isn't copying; he's just dull and unattractive.

Yeah, because all of the actors that played the part before were male models.

Who the fuck is Romana?

Wow. Maybe you should look into the history of the show. There are a lot of great stories and characters that you have, obviously, never seen or heard about.

I'll warn you though...

Not everyone is "good looking" and the pace of the show was slower. You might just find the whole thing "dull and unattractive."
 
That'd be fine by me as long as those fans realise the arbitrary nature of the thirteen regeneration limit and the that the show had quite happily ran for thirteen years before anyone mentioned any kind of limit to The Doctor's regenerative abilities. At the end of the day, as Moffat said when asked about how they'd get around the limit they'll "make something up".
Besides doesnt the idea that the Doctor doesnt have limited regenerations, take away from the times, he has given his life to save someone else?
No, the fact that he has regenerations takes away from the times he's given his life to save someone else. But no one seems to mind so what the heck. :)
not really because he is still giving up 1 of a limited number of lives.
 
I've no idea who he is or isn't copying; he's just dull and unattractive.

Yeah, because all of the actors that played the part before were male models.

Who the fuck is Romana?

Wow. Maybe you should look into the history of the show. There are a lot of great stories and characters that you have, obviously, never seen or heard about.

I'll warn you though...

Not everyone is "good looking" and the pace of the show was slower. You might just find the whole thing "dull and unattractive."

Do not feed the energy creature ... I'm reasonably sure Dennis is just winding us up; he loves to bait devoted fans. I can't say I blame him, though -- as hobbies go it's one that's easy and cheap to get started in and very rewarding.
 
not really because he is still giving up 1 of a limited number of lives.

Whenever I've seen a Doctor die, the last thing on my mind was the regeneration limit. As a matter of fact, that wasn't on my mind at all. Each Doctor is its own character which we, the audience, have come to know and like (in most cases, anyway ;)) and that's why it worked emotionally. I certainly didn't shed a few tears when Ten died because the Doctor now had one less regeneration but because I had connected with the character.

I also shed a few tears for Two, and that was before the limit was introduced. :p
 
I've no idea who he is or isn't copying; he's just dull and unattractive.

Yeah, because all of the actors that played the part before were male models.

Who the fuck is Romana?

Wow. Maybe you should look into the history of the show. There are a lot of great stories and characters that you have, obviously, never seen or heard about.

I'll warn you though...

Not everyone is "good looking" and the pace of the show was slower. You might just find the whole thing "dull and unattractive."

Do not feed the energy creature ... I'm reasonably sure Dennis is just winding us up; he loves to bait devoted fans. I can't say I blame him, though -- as hobbies go it's one that's easy and cheap to get started in and very rewarding.

Pretty much. I was going to comment on how impressed I was that everyone was able to ignore him this far, but it didn't last. :D
 
Besides doesnt the idea that the Doctor doesnt have limited regenerations, take away from the times, he has given his life to save someone else?
No, the fact that he has regenerations takes away from the times he's given his life to save someone else. But no one seems to mind so what the heck. :)
not really because he is still giving up 1 of a limited number of lives.

I give up. Suffice it to say that as long as Doctor Who is popular or even unpopular we won't see The Doctor's final regeneration because at the end of the day there are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea's asleep, and the rivers dream; people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, wamdue. We've got work to do.
 
Does anyone else want the 11th Doctor to regenerate in the next series. If they do I hope they replace him with a more serious Doctor like Eccleston. I don't hate Matt but I think he was copying Tennant to much.

Absolutely not. I think he's the best actor to ever play the Doctor. And no, he's not copying Tennant, no way, else I wouldn't love him so much. I hope he sticks around for many more series.
 
I really hope the idea that Smith might not be back after these next two series is just a horrible, horrible rumor. He's, by far, my favorite of the four Doctors I've watched. I'd like to see him stay in the role for a few more years, or at least through the 50th anniversary in 2013.
 
Interesting to read some of the comments on previous Doctors in this thread. Strange perceptions. I've always seen Hartnell as a more comical Doctor than Troughton, for instance.

Really? That's odd. Troughton was very in-your-face about the comic aspects of the role in his later serials (not so much in the beginning), especially in his last season. It sometimes borders borders on overacting, in my opinion. His costume (e.g. trousers too large) gives the character a more comic touch, too.

Ah, but that's the point, isn't it? A bit of slapstick clowning is very obvious but it's a cover for a more complex and serious character. Peter Bryant is on record as saying that he cast Pertwee deliberately on account of his comedy background because he thought it would lighten the show up, as it had been getting too dark at the end of Troughton's time. Anyway, I never said Troughton wasn't comical - all the Doctors have been - but that Hartnell played it much more in that direction.
 
Oh yeah, I forgot to add that Romana is also a time lord (Or Time lady rather) :)


There have been some rumors that Matt will be leaving at the end of the seventh season (or around Christmas this year) and that the reason they split the season in two is so he could fill out the three season contract.

I thought the number was 5. Whether that's seasons or years, IDK.
 
I hope we're not derailing the thread too much with our side discussion about old Who.

Ah, but that's the point, isn't it? A bit of slapstick clowning is very obvious but it's a cover for a more complex and serious character.

I'd say it's more a part of a complex character. And I suppose it's always been part of Doctor Who, which even in the old days could be very dark and disturbing at times.
It's one aspect of the show that immediately appealed to me when I started watching the new series - a really tragic story (the Doctor has lost his homeworld, is traumatised by the most horrible war imagineable and he keeps losing those he holds dear) is told in a light-hearted fashion.


Peter Bryant is on record as saying that he cast Pertwee deliberately on account of his comedy background because he thought it would lighten the show up, as it had been getting too dark at the end of Troughton's time.

Someone should have told Barry Letts and the writers. :lol:
I've only just finished watching Pertwee's second season but the stories aren't exactly light-hearted. The huge death toll among UNIT members and also civilians, the Master trying to destroy Earth in every story of the second season, the Brig mass-murdering the Silurians, the Doctor finding himself in mortal danger every other week (the cliffhangers are really kick-ass), evil corporations and oppressive governments - not very light material. Now, I agree that the tone in which those stories are told is light-hearted - thankfully, because otherwise it would be nuBSG. There's always room for witty remarks, like the great banter between the Doctor and the Master, and for elements not to be taken too seriously (Bessy, the Master listening to rock music on his listening-in device etc.).
However, I think that the Third Doctor is a much darker character than the Second. He's mostly interested in getting his Tardis working again and ready to betray the Brig in a heartbeat (in the first story already where he would have left Earth in a critical situation after lying to Liz Shaw to get the Tardis key). His frustration and bitterness about being stuck on Earth is quite evident. I'm thinking of the Doctor's last line in The Mind of Evil, where he summarises that the Master can move about freely again while he's stil stuck on Earth. Pertwee plays the last part of the sentence light-heartedly enough so that it's not a total downer, but still. In The Claws of Axos when it appears as if the Doctor had betrayed humanity to save his own skin, I felt it was very believable that he could do it.

I left out some of the stories where hardly any video material survives but I fail to see how the stories of the Second Doctor became considerably darker towards the end. To me, it felt like the usual mix of darker and lighter stories, just like during the Hartnell era.


Anyway, I never said Troughton wasn't comical - all the Doctors have been - but that Hartnell played it much more in that direction.

Well, art is perceived in different ways by different people, and that's great. I don't agree but I would be quite interested in hearing some examples if you have any in mind.
 
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