Massive MPAA fail: some f-bombs in therapy worse than testicle torture

[Amaris]

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The MPAA is fucked up and has no concept of rationality or even the "pulse" of the nation. Listen to the "Clerks" commentary track done with Kevin Smith (I think it was Clerks, may have been Dogma) where he complains about the MPAA's take with the first cut of the movie, he goes back and makes some fairly minor changes and presto-change-o he gets a lower rating.

The MPAA also is harsher on violence than it is on language and sex. I bet it's ran by a bunch of prudish church ladies or something. There's also a lot of secrecy around the agency that's just absurd. There was a nice documentary about the MPAA that was made and released a few years ago that revealed how screwed up their system is not to mention hypocritical at times.

A "better system" is needed for telling parents and viewers what's in a movie. Or perhaps just dispense with the whole "Rated PG-13, Rated-R, whatever" thing and just straight-out tell people what content is in the movie and let the people decide who's capable of seeing it.

That would be the previously mentioned "This Film Is Not Yet Rated", which I believe makes a fantastic point about the useless and arbitrary nature of the MPAA ratings system.

See some boobs? Rated R.
See a guy get shot repeatedly in the chest, with blood spurting everywhere? PG-13.

Amazing.

 

[Pingfah]

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That would be the previously mentioned "This Film Is Not Yet Rated", which I believe makes a fantastic point about the useless and arbitrary nature of the MPAA ratings system.

See some boobs? Rated R.
See a guy get shot repeatedly in the chest, with blood spurting everywhere? PG-13.

Amazing.

I don't know that it's arbitrary, in fact there seems to be quite a pointed agenda to it.

 

[Amaris]

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That would be the previously mentioned "This Film Is Not Yet Rated", which I believe makes a fantastic point about the useless and arbitrary nature of the MPAA ratings system.

See some boobs? Rated R.
See a guy get shot repeatedly in the chest, with blood spurting everywhere? PG-13.

Amazing.

I don't know that it's arbitrary, in fact there seems to be quite a pointed agenda to it.

It's arbitrary when they don't approve of something. Their standards change quite a bit if it's something they don't like. I'd love to see the MPAA go the way of the dodo.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

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So, basically, the complaint is that both of these movies were ruled inappropriate for children and that this is the same thing as saying that there's no difference between them?

 

[Mr. Adventure]

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I wish we could go back to not having ratings for films.

Ah yes, the days of no nudity, no gore, no language, the good ol' days.

 

[Kirkman1987]

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I wish we could go back to not having ratings for films.

Ah yes, the days of no nudity, no gore, no language, the good ol' days.

Yeah, but certainly pre-code films are suitably Adult for the age they were made in. Most don't have nudity, but sexual themes are freely discussed and implied, and a pre-code gangster movie has all the violence you'd want. I don't think there was a great deal of censorship, it's just that the culture has changed enough that film makers and audiences accept and expect more violence and sex in films.

 

[Aragorn]

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Filmmaker and studio power also play a large role in ratings. The biggest scene commonly referred to is the brain scene in Hannibal. Would've gotten an NC-17 rating had it not been a Ridley Scott/Anthony Hopkins/Universal picture.

 

[Harvey]

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^ That seems to be pretty common, near as I can tell. I've seen it a couple of times on The Amazing Race as well.

I recall that in one of the rare instances where somebody dropped the F-bomb on SEINFELD, the actor had to say something else, even though the line was always going to be bleeped. Totally silly.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

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The ratings have shifted over the years as well. Nudity is not uncommon in PG movies prior to the PG-13. And conversely, early on the G rating was a lot more broad than it is today, movies that would not be G today: 2001, Planet of the Apes, The Andromeda Strain, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Silent Running.

 

[Marc]

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One thing about the torture scene in Casino Royale is it wasn't just created for the film, it was actually part of the book and described as the a most violent thing Flemming ever wrote but there was a point the scene unlike ripping a jaw off off or gluing some-one to a seat because you're a sick fuck who gets off on that sort of thing (referring the Saw character).

 

[Starbreaker]

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This is nothing new. The MPAA is a joke.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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See some boobs? Rated R.

I don't know that it's arbitrary, in fact there seems to be quite a pointed agenda to it.

I see what you did there.

^ That seems to be pretty common, near as I can tell. I've seen it a couple of times on The Amazing Race as well.

I recall that in one of the rare instances where somebody dropped the F-bomb on SEINFELD, the actor had to say something else, even though the line was always going to be bleeped. Totally silly.

Anyone remember the "Shit Happens" scene from Chicago Hope? If that can get on the air, then that's very encouraging. (And my dad, who is a doctor, says that the line was EXACTLY appropriate for the scene.)

 

[Harvey]

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I don't think you can get away with saying "shit" at all on network television. Even on basic cable, it depends on the channel. SyFy doesn't allow the word--they censored a derivation of it on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA in the episode "Hero." FX allows it--to the point that it is to the go-to profanity on IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA (because, obviously, they haven't been able to use "fuck," outside of the Christmas special which went straight-to-DVD).

 

[Trekker4747]

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Along similar lines. Think of the movie "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" a hilarious and somewhat heart-warming "road comedy" starring John Candy and Steven Martin probably at the two's best. No nudity in the movie, no violence in the movie, it's pretty much a fairly safe John Hughes road comedy.

It's Rated-R. Why? Because of the profanity laden scene where Steve Martin's character cusses out a worker at an airline rental car desk.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3a7ATwS6-A[/yt]

One two-minute scene in otherwise perfectly tame, sweet, and hilarious movie and it gets slapped with an R-Rating.

 

[Gaith]

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So, basically, the complaint is that both of these movies were ruled inappropriate for children and that this is the same thing as saying that there's no difference between them?

Why shouldn't The King's Speech be PG-13? Why shouldn't children see it? No damn reason, not one.

 

[Jetfire]

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Why shouldn't The King's Speech be PG-13? Why shouldn't children see it? No damn reason, not one.

Lack of interest?

 

[Non Sync]

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I don't think you can get away with saying "shit" at all on network television. Even on basic cable, it depends on the channel. SyFy doesn't allow the word--they censored a derivation of it on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA in the episode "Hero." FX allows it--to the point that it is to the go-to profanity on IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA (because, obviously, they haven't been able to use "fuck," outside of the Christmas special which went straight-to-DVD).

Actually you can. ER had an episode where Dr. Green is in Hawaii as his brain tumor is really causing him problems. In one scene, he falls and says "Shit!" At the time, it was regarded as permissible given the hour the show was airing and the context.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

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Why shouldn't The King's Speech be PG-13? Why shouldn't children see it? No damn reason, not one.

Lack of interest?

Yeah, no kids are going to see that movie, let's be honest. They'll just have to bother their parents instead of the planned outing with their school chums.

Of course, I've been going to R-rated movies by myself since I was 13, I guess that's probably changed for today's generation?

 

[Aragorn]

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I remember watching a soap opera as a kid in the... early 90s, I think? ...where one character exclaimed, "This is bullshit!" But they muted the actual swear word. They had to know it wasn't gonna fly, especially in the middle of the day. I wonder why they tried.

 

[Amaris]

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I remember watching a soap opera as a kid in the... early 90s, I think? ...where one character exclaimed, "This is bullshit!" But they muted the actual swear word. They had to know it wasn't gonna fly, especially in the middle of the day. I wonder why they tried.

Integrity, maybe. Maybe the principle of the thing, I'm not sure, but that's why I'd do it.