Marvel's "Fear Itself"
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I never cared for Fear Itself. I read some of the tie in books and the first issue and just wasn't impressed. I was going to read the tie-ins for the characters in their own books anyway but Fear Itself was just a stinking pile of MEH!!
The Defenders book is the only real thing to come out of it I've got some curiosity about. I love Hulk so I could care less if it's #1 or #636, I hate renumbering. Ergo I'll just wait for Hulks TPB. They(Marvel/DC) are pushing me off monthlies all the time for the big longevity characters.
killed Thor...again? It feels like they just did that in Avengers Dissasemble in 2002/2003. Kinda early for a repeat of that is it not?
I never cared for Fear Itself. I read some of the tie in books and the first issue and just wasn't impressed. I was going to read the tie-ins for the characters in their own books anyway but Fear Itself was just a stinking pile of MEH!!
The Defenders book is the only real thing to come out of it I've got some curiosity about. I love Hulk so I could care less if it's #1 or #636, I hate renumbering. Ergo I'll just wait for Hulks TPB. They(Marvel/DC) are pushing me off monthlies all the time for the big longevity characters.
Thor, Fear Itself and UXM pretty much cements Fraction as one of the worst writers working at Marvel.
I would disagree about Uncanny X-Men...he made me a fan again. I will agree with the other stuff.
Agreed. What a disappointment.
I just love how Marvel touts people like Fraction, Aaron and Bendis as "architects" when it's Gillen, Pak, Yost, and Gage who are by far their best writers.
I just love how Marvel touts people like Fraction, Aaron and Bendis as "architects" when it's Gillen, Pak, Yost, and Gage who are by far their best writers.
Jason Aaron did an incredible job with Schism and I've been a Bendis fan for a long time so I guess I'll disagree with that statement as well. I don't know if Matt Fraction has done enough definitive work to be called an Architect myself but I've enjoyed his X-Men work. I didn't really mean to turn this into a Marvel writer bashing thread. I just really didn't like this particular book.
Schism is the only thing that Aaron has written that I've read and it didn't sell me. I could see Wolverine's argument, but not a single one of his actions made any sense to me. When the kids all sided with Cyclops to fight the sentinel, Wolvie should have thrown Idie over his shoulder, said "Good luck, Slim", and left. Instead he threw a temper tantrum.
As for Bendis, I like him to a point, and I do buy both of his Avengers books, but he is far from Marvel's best and his de-compressed style of story-telling can get very annoying on a month-to-month basis.
As for Bendis, I like him to a point, and I do buy both of his Avengers books, but he is far from Marvel's best and his de-compressed style of story-telling can get very annoying on a month-to-month basis.
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Schism and ReGenesis have been forced in my opinion but it could have been written way worse and taken nothing from X-Men continuity but that hasn't been the case at all. I can see both Logan and Scott's point of view and am excited for ReGenesis. The unity that Utopia was destroyed but there are some interesting stories ahead for the X-Men and it has me excited really for the first time in a long time. As Aaron and Gillen stated little bits have been taken from Morrison/Whedon/Fraction and even stuff prior to that. I love where the X-Men is right now. I will agree that it seems to be forced. I still don't really see the point of de-constructing Utopia.
Bendis is hit or miss for me. His Moon Knight has taken awhile to really get going. A clear 'write for the trade' scenario with this book. Overall I'm liking it it but will be glad to see, or hope to, the "if I were 'x' hero" analysis go away.
I agree on Pak also, like his work. The rest mentioned I don't feel strongly about one way or the other currently.
I agree on Pak also, like his work. The rest mentioned I don't feel strongly about one way or the other currently.
The only thing I've liked of Pak's was "Planet Hulk". World War Hulk was a let down. Also Jonathon Hickman is an Architect and deservedly so. The man IS their best writer.
^Agreed about Hickman. I forgot about him. Also, Dan Slott should be an "Architect".
I liked Pak's Incredible Hercules and his Hulk. I don't blame him for the "Hulk Family" mess that he inherited from Loeb.
I have enjoyed Bendis' Avengers for the most part, but think that it's maybe time for him to move on. He has written more "Avengers" than any other writer in the teams history and some fresh perspectives on the team would be nice. In fact, IMHO, the best Avengers runs during the "Bendis era" have been Slott's Mighty Avengers and Gage's Avengers Academy. If I had to cut down to a single Avengers book a month, Academy would be it.
I liked Pak's Incredible Hercules and his Hulk. I don't blame him for the "Hulk Family" mess that he inherited from Loeb.
I have enjoyed Bendis' Avengers for the most part, but think that it's maybe time for him to move on. He has written more "Avengers" than any other writer in the teams history and some fresh perspectives on the team would be nice. In fact, IMHO, the best Avengers runs during the "Bendis era" have been Slott's Mighty Avengers and Gage's Avengers Academy. If I had to cut down to a single Avengers book a month, Academy would be it.
Agreed about Dan Slott (I have VERY few problems with him) he has made me a Spidey fan again!
Hickman, Gage, Remender and Gillen are probably the best writers Marvel currently has.
Bendis hasn't written anything good in the Main Marvel U since DD.
Brubaker's Cap hasn't been good since Steve came back from the dead.
Aaron is a mixed bag. His Ghost Rider and Wolverine were good, his Schism has the same problem as Fraction's UXM.
Slott is a bottom tier writer like Fraction
Bendis hasn't written anything good in the Main Marvel U since DD.
Brubaker's Cap hasn't been good since Steve came back from the dead.
Aaron is a mixed bag. His Ghost Rider and Wolverine were good, his Schism has the same problem as Fraction's UXM.
Slott is a bottom tier writer like Fraction
Just read the 7.1 issue, and...
...Bucky lives! 
Were the editors for Thor asleep at the wheel?
Matt Fraction apparently forgot what happened to Bor and showed him dying of old age before a young Odin. Thor is becoming one big mess after another due to him.
Yeah Thor is a big mess right now. I haven't liked much of Fraction's work lately.
Sounds like a case of the writer and/or editor forgetting or simply ignoring details they don't like in order to tell the story they want regardless of anything else.
Glad to hear about the 7.1 spoiler, thought they'd probably let that stand for a bit longer.
Fraction's Thor: Ages of Thunder was terrific.
It feels like people are blaming authors for the problems of a particular form or genre, the Big Event. Pak is better when he's not on a Big Event, Hickman hasn't had a Big Event, we're all suffering Bendis-fatigue because he's written more Avengers partly due to all the Big Events.
It's another sound argument for limiting events.