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Marvel Studios may be planning more MCU for the small screen

Their biggest role was basically as script doctors; they supervised an in-house writing team that basically took the "official" writers' first drafts and then revised them, often to add in additional continuity bits and ensuring a consistent tone across all the movies. They did the rewrite of Ant-Man that ultimately led Edgar Wright to abandon the project; there were a bucketload of rewrites on Thor; Alan Taylor reportedly had minimal involvement in the re-shoots on Thor 2; James Gunn was heavily rewritten on Guardians of the Galaxy; et cetera.

Are they the reason why every MCU movie feels like a trailer for the next MCU movie?
 
Quite probably. Whedon has spoken rather bluntly about how he had a very unpleasant time writing and then actually making Age of Ultron and it was that experience that led him to cease future involvement with Marvel Studios. In particular, Marvel Studios wanted to excise the farmhouse segment and expound on Thor's time in the cave, which would have had a full vision of Thanos, the Infinity Gems and all that jazz.
 
The fact that the Committee disbanded is a little concerning, if were part of the reason the movies managed to it so well together, and stayed so true to the comics. If those things were more due to Feig and the people writing the movies then I'm not as concerned. I do hope they still keep the shows, or at least AoS as tied into the movies as they have been.
Misty Knight has been cast.
 
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I don't mind if Daredevil stays off the Avengers' radar, but I do wish they hadn't left Stark Tower out of the Manhattan skyline shots in DD (and Agents of SHIELD).

Eh, that's likely a time/budget thing rather than anything else.

It would've been only a few shots in a few episodes, and in this day and age it'd be quite simple to achieve. Adding a static building in the background of a shot would probably be simpler than the CG work in the FX videos that were recently released, showing how weapons and such were digitally animated in the fight scenes.



Their biggest role was basically as script doctors; they supervised an in-house writing team that basically took the "official" writers' first drafts and then revised them, often to add in additional continuity bits and ensuring a consistent tone across all the movies. They did the rewrite of Ant-Man that ultimately led Edgar Wright to abandon the project; there were a bucketload of rewrites on Thor; Alan Taylor reportedly had minimal involvement in the re-shoots on Thor 2; James Gunn was heavily rewritten on Guardians of the Galaxy; et cetera.

I'm not so sure that's a bad thing, though. That's basically the job of a showrunner in a TV series -- to rewrite everyone else's scripts in order to bring consistency and continuity to the series. What Marvel has been doing with their movies has been to bring the structure of weekly television to feature films, and I think it's been quite a successful undertaking. True, giving more freedom to the individual directors could make for stronger individual works in some cases, but they might not mesh together so well anymore.
 
I don't care about things meshing together, though. If my wife and I have to pay $25 to see a movie together, I want to be told a story and have it be good.

The way the Marvel movies have largely worked up until now have basically been the most expensive TV miniseries in history.
 
The way the Marvel movies have largely worked up until now have basically been the most expensive TV miniseries in history.

Yes, and that's exactly what's so interesting about them. It's a form we haven't really seen in movies before. It's an innovation. How is that bad?

Heck, television has been a far superior storytelling medium to movies for a long time now, in large part because it has more time to develop its worlds and characters in depth, and because it's in the control of writer-producers with clear, consistent creative visions rather than directors who may be concerned with style over story. There are so many movie series that lack any consistency, so many individual movies that are just not very good. The only advantages movies these days have over television are budget and time. So if the creative process in movies begins to follow the lead of television, I don't see the problem.

And just as importantly, it's following the lead of the comics. Look at how Ant-Man was enriched by its ties to what previous movies had established. We already knew the SHIELD and Hydra backstory, the larger rules of the universe, so here we saw a story set against that backdrop, able to build on it to give the story's world substance and resonance without the need to start from scratch. When Ant-Man needed to prove himself in action, they could bring in an established hero, the Falcon, as a guest star to fight him -- exactly how the comics would do it. Superhero movies in the past have rarely captured the feel of the comics that well because movies are so much more standalone than the serial structure of comics. The MCU movies are more of a serial, and that's good, because it brings them closer to the structure and style of the comics they're based on.
 
...but it's well known in the industry that the rest of the Avengers cast worked for peanuts on the first movie and only received very modest increases for Age of Ultron.

Far be it from me to dispute what's 'well known in the industry' but this states, if accurate, that everybody got quite the hike upwards for AoU.
 
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Yeah, I heard that when RDJ re-negotiated his own deal, he made sure that Evans, Hemsworth and Ruffalo all got substantial raises as well.

And it was supposedly Ike Perlmutter that was so cheap about paying actors. With him out of the picture, this probably won't be the issue that it once was.
 
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Well, I hope the disbanding doesn't hurt the movies. I'm fine with how the Marvel films are made (rewrites certainly didn't hurt Guardians or Ant-Man), so I hope we get the same quality we've been getting, and the movies don't become lower quality because of this.
 
The way the Marvel movies have largely worked up until now have basically been the most expensive TV miniseries in history.

Yes, and that's exactly what's so interesting about them. It's a form we haven't really seen in movies before. It's an innovation. How is that bad?
I agree on this one. That is the one reason why I have to see every movie in the theater and see pretty much every tv-show. And I dont want that to change.
 
The way the Marvel movies have largely worked up until now have basically been the most expensive TV miniseries in history.

Yes, and that's exactly what's so interesting about them. It's a form we haven't really seen in movies before. It's an innovation. How is that bad?

Heck, television has been a far superior storytelling medium to movies for a long time now, in large part because it has more time to develop its worlds and characters in depth, and because it's in the control of writer-producers with clear, consistent creative visions rather than directors who may be concerned with style over story. There are so many movie series that lack any consistency, so many individual movies that are just not very good. The only advantages movies these days have over television are budget and time. So if the creative process in movies begins to follow the lead of television, I don't see the problem.

And just as importantly, it's following the lead of the comics. Look at how Ant-Man was enriched by its ties to what previous movies had established. We already knew the SHIELD and Hydra backstory, the larger rules of the universe, so here we saw a story set against that backdrop, able to build on it to give the story's world substance and resonance without the need to start from scratch. When Ant-Man needed to prove himself in action, they could bring in an established hero, the Falcon, as a guest star to fight him -- exactly how the comics would do it. Superhero movies in the past have rarely captured the feel of the comics that well because movies are so much more standalone than the serial structure of comics. The MCU movies are more of a serial, and that's good, because it brings them closer to the structure and style of the comics they're based on.

Christopher, I don't think I've ever agreed with you more than I do here. :)

I love this method of storytelling and I hope this isn't the beginning of the end.
 
I accidently posted this in the Daredevil thread the other day, but I meant it for this post. Mahershala Ali, from The 4400, where he went by his old name, Mahershalalhashbaz Ali, both The Hunger Games: Mockingjay movies, and House of Cards, as Cornell Stokes. Stokes is going to be the series version of comic book character Cornell Cottonmouth.
It's also been announced that Simone Missick will be playing a character named Missy, who does appear to be Misty Knight. So apparently those rumors were true. I wonder if we're going to hear about Colleen Wing anytime soon, because it sounds like, in the comics at least, they tend to work as a pair, so it would be a shock if we only got one of them.
 
Is there a Jessica Jones thread?

BTW, for Daredevil, I drank Manhattans. It's a red drink with an appropriate name. Can anyone think of a good drink for Jessica Jones? I figured she'd drink something self-destructive, but I'd like it to be something relatively drinkable because I'd like to enjoy myself.
 
BTW, for Daredevil, I drank Manhattans. It's a red drink with an appropriate name. Can anyone think of a good drink for Jessica Jones? I figured she'd drink something self-destructive, but I'd like it to be something relatively drinkable because I'd like to enjoy myself.

Well, the title for episode three is "AKA: It's Called Whiskey"... ;)
 
I love this method of storytelling and I hope this isn't the beginning of the end.

Well, I hope the disbanding doesn't hurt the movies. I'm fine with how the Marvel films are made (rewrites certainly didn't hurt Guardians or Ant-Man), so I hope we get the same quality we've been getting, and the movies don't become lower quality because of this.

If anything I expect the movies' quality to improve now that the reins have been loosened.

On one hand, I'm happy to see the back off from the pennypinching with the budget - getting out from under the heel of Perlmutter's got to be a positive, but losing the direct input from comics guys could be an issue.

I hope continuity and interconnectedness don't suffer...
 
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