Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Temis the Vorta, Jul 3, 2012.
The only thing this trailer had in common with the first GL trailer is that both are comic properties with a dominant space theme.
This GotG trailer did not have any of the same issues of the first GL trailer. That first GL trailer had shoddy, unfinished f/x and it's humor attempts fell flat causing the internet to light up, largely, in a bad way. The GotG trailer did the exact opposite.
Any viewer whose go to is "It's Marvel's GL" is being unjustly reactionary and that's on them.
I still haven't seen GL but my suspicion is that James Gunn is a much better fit for this sort of thing than Martin Campbell was (though Campbell has his strengths).
That's more than enough to make the connection.
There have been plenty of negative reactions to the GotG trailer right here.
For my part, that's assuming a far greater emotional investment in the subject than I possess. It's an unflattering first impression, nothing more.
The style of humor in the two trailers are very different, for what that's worth. GotG is going with deadpan goofy. With the exception of one moment from Starlord and the ad-lib comment at the end, much of the humor is just the juxtaposition of the music and characters with their serious backstories. Green Lantern had a very sitcom-y style humor to the trailer.
Also, Green Lantern has a horrible looking and unnecessary CGI uniform and mask
I thought that was clever. The costume is created by the ring, why is it more material than the first he punches with?
Have to give them some props for not feeding the rubber suit paradigm.
The poster does show the GOTG members who wear clothes in similar red leather outfits, so it looks like there is a chance they might adopt some sort of uniform by the end.
Can someone here (possibly someone who has read the Guardians of the Galaxy comics) explain to me how Star Lord, a human, gets into interstellar space?
Note: I'm still not clear on whether Nine Realms and/or Chitauri space are different dimensons or just distant areas of Earth's universe.
Note: Sif told Coulson in "Yes Men" that no other races had visited Earth in recent times. However, Chloe Bennet recently claimed that the blue alien corpse was indeed Kree.
Chloe Bennett also later retracted her claim, for what it's worth (perhaps not sincerely, though). Even if Ms. Bennett has no inside knowledge of what it is, however, it's hard to imagine it being anything else. Either way, though, I think it's clear that Lady Sif does not have full knowledge of everyone who has reached Earth.
I don't know how Peter Quill gets into space in the comics. However, one report for the movie says:
Spoiler: Plot details, I think
He is somehow "sucked" into space as a young kid (don't know the details) and then raised by Yondu as a child
I don't think Chitauri space is another dimension. Whether the Nine Realms are or are not is the big debate (I don't personally think it changes much either way). The main view, however, is all of known space is in Midgard, while the other eight realms are in other dimensions. That means the Chitauri are in Midgard. The portal that opened that gave them a shortcut, iirc from the Avengers, was created with the Space Stone by Loki. I don't think it was a portal to another universe, unless there's something from the comics suggesting that the Chitauri are not from normal space.
The fact that their "space" was an M-class atmosphere, their planets were mile wide rocks exposed to this space, that the Chitauri could wait near the portal in open space, for hours maybe even days, without needing any EVA suits of any kind.
It's not quite...normal.
I am not sure what exactly the MCU or the Ultimate Universe does to explain the Nine Realms and "real" space, but in the comics IIRC Asgard is in a different dimension to the rest of the universe.
Here is a nice summary of Star Lord's history in the comics. The current version of the character though is from the Annihilation event that happened about ten years ago and rebooted a lot of Marvel's cosmic characters.
Chris Pratt said there were a whole bunch of versions of Peter Quill. He wasn't exaggerating
This movie seems to be a nice combination of several different ones. The overcocky human of Giffen's version seems to be quite a big influence, though.
From the trailer I suspect that however he got into deep space it happened when he was a child. Assuming the actor is about the same age of the character, the fact that cassette walkmans went obsolete sometime in the early 90's and that the Blue Swede cover of 'Hooked on a Feeling' is from the mid-70's, I'd say he was about 10 year old in the late 80's when it happened.
Which seems to line up with the latest version of his origin as when his mother was killed. Indeed, maybe the song has some personal significance. A memory of his mother perhaps and the last tangible link to home.
I'm just speculating now, but I think it'd be better if they alter the origin a bit to have him abducted by those aliens as a child (intentionally or otherwise.) The idea that he "joined NASA" is a good explanation as to how he got halfway across the universe seems like a little bit of a stretch.
Personally I think the concept of an orphan fending for himself in a (quite literally) alien environment is a lot more interesting than an astronaut who lucked upon interstellar travel just because he wanted to really badly. Oliver Twist in space if you will. Obviously someone out there would have had to have taken him in for a time, maybe even raised him to an extent.
I don't disagree, but you'd think Heimdall would have noticed at least. I mean that's his job, no? Those Kree must have been *very* sneaky.
Based on how things are presented in the movies, it seems as though all of the Nine Realms are all in the same universe, just spread across the cosmos. As if the Virgo Supercluster is just one "branch" of Yggdrasil. Indeed, isn't an "alternate dimension" just an often used, but technically incorrect way of saying "alternate universe"? Clearly everything is supposed to be in the same universe, even if Asgard itself is somehow isolated (and yet surrounded by stars, moons and planets?)
I know from reading some comics as well as watching various cartoon adaptations that in Earth-616, Asgard and the other realms are indeed supposed to be other dimensions. However, I'm confused as to the intent in the MCU because in Thor, Thor used Hubble snapshots to explain the Nine Realms to Jane Foster.
And the difference between "dimension" and "universe" differs depending on which franchise/work you're talking about. But then there's Star Trek. Would you call a subspace fold or whatever from Star Trek an alternate dimension or an alternate universe? Cause then there's parallel quantum realities like the mirror universe and the Abramsverse.
My guess is that the realms just refer to different galaxies in MCU, whereas most of the aliens like the chitauri or kree are from the Milky Way (aka, Midgard).
According to Wikipedia, the Kree are from the Large Magellanic Cloud.
I don't know much about Star-Lord but what I've read in these links but I like your idea. It would seem to jive well with the attitude seen in the trailer.
In the comics.
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