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Marvel/Netflix Daredevil Season 1

You can watch Netflix for free for a month. I don't get the need to pirate it. But it's still encouraging about its popularity.
 
Their Canadian arm has the same deal going with its first month for new subscribers. I can't speak to the matter of other countries with their own divisions of Netflix.
 
For successful people (in and out of the adult industry) it's a lot less controversial than it used to be. However, for normal every day people, the kind who do a handful of movies or scenes to pay for tuition and get out, it can still cause problems in general and with some employers in particular.

But we don't know what kind of porn. Even in 2015 there are things a person could do on camera that would be truly shocking..........
 
Even if you have Netflix, you might still download it - because you cannot play netflix on a flight, reliably on a train etc.
 
Nope.

Actually, to be completely honest, I don't have a TV.

Well, I have three crt tv's in the garage, and my Monitor is a massive TV, but it's not connected to anything broadcasty other than my computer.
 
Even if you have Netflix, you might still download it - because you cannot play netflix on a flight, reliably on a train etc.

That's a fair point.

Regardless, I think it's a safe assumption that heavily pirated shows do reflect highly popular shows (even acknowledging that certain shows might get pirated more than others*). Therefore, the news is still encouraging news for the Marvel/Netflix experiment.

* Genre shows always seem to lead the list, while network television procedurals like CSI: Miami or NCIS seem unlikely.
 
Regardless, I think it's a safe assumption that heavily pirated shows do reflect highly popular shows (even acknowledging that certain shows might get pirated more than others*). Therefore, the news is still encouraging news for the Marvel/Netflix experiment.

It's hardly encouraging, because it costs them money and makes it harder for them to afford making more such shows. Piracy is a selfish and harmful act. It's stealing from the creators of a work, stealing money they need to continue doing their work. It's not a celebration or a tribute, it's a betrayal and an assault. Nobody finds it encouraging to be mugged.
 
I liked this show but I think it didn't build on the momentum of the first few episodes. It kinda leveled out and then got into relationships and drama a bit too much.
 
It's hardly encouraging, because it costs them money and makes it harder for them to afford making more such shows. Piracy is a selfish and harmful act. It's stealing from the creators of a work, stealing money they need to continue doing their work. It's not a celebration or a tribute, it's a betrayal and an assault. Nobody finds it encouraging to be mugged.
Piracy is immoral, this is indisputable. However, it's not all black and white.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/wh...game-of-thrones-is-the-most-pirated-show-ever

Shortly after season two's DVD set a record high for the network, HBO programming president Michael Lombardo told Entertainment Weekly piracy wasn't hurting revenue. “I probably shouldn’t be saying this, but it is a compliment of sorts,” he said. “The demand is there. And it certainly didn’t negatively impact the DVD sales. [Piracy is] something that comes along with having a wildly successful show on a subscription network.”
 
Yeah the damage piracy can or can't do is next to impossible determine as there's no way of proving that every download equals a lost sale. It's just as likely that most of those people downloading a film or TV show were never going to part money for the product anyway and would just as soon not bothered., or are doing so for the simple convenience of not having to set a recording/rip a disc to their HD themselves. Another portion may pirate just to see if they like it before buying it in a higher quality format.

The only real potential loss in today's market as far I can see is in potential sub fees for streaming services like Netflix. But again, there's no way of telling how many would just as soon not bothered.

Of course it varies in certain regions where the local currency/economic state means the product is out of most people's price range, thus piracu is rampent. Which is why some video game companies at least are reducing prices in places like Russia, South America & Eastern Europe since it's the only way to make any money, or have pulled out of those regions and written them off as a lost cause.
 
It's hardly encouraging, because it costs them money and makes it harder for them to afford making more such shows. Piracy is a selfish and harmful act. It's stealing from the creators of a work, stealing money they need to continue doing their work. It's not a celebration or a tribute, it's a betrayal and an assault. Nobody finds it encouraging to be mugged.
Piracy is immoral, this is indisputable. However, it's not all black and white.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/wh...game-of-thrones-is-the-most-pirated-show-ever

Shortly after season two's DVD set a record high for the network, HBO programming president Michael Lombardo told Entertainment Weekly piracy wasn't hurting revenue. “I probably shouldn’t be saying this, but it is a compliment of sorts,” he said. “The demand is there. And it certainly didn’t negatively impact the DVD sales. [Piracy is] something that comes along with having a wildly successful show on a subscription network.”

That may be, but digital piracy certainly does hurt other types of artists, such as prose authors or independent comics authors. A big production company or network may be able to absorb the losses thanks to their other revenue streams, but a lot of us don't have those alternative revenue streams and are genuinely threatened by piracy. So the attitude that it's somehow harmless or excusable is dangerous to a lot of people.
 
Regardless, I think it's a safe assumption that heavily pirated shows do reflect highly popular shows (even acknowledging that certain shows might get pirated more than others*). Therefore, the news is still encouraging news for the Marvel/Netflix experiment.

It's hardly encouraging, because it costs them money and makes it harder for them to afford making more such shows. Piracy is a selfish and harmful act. It's stealing from the creators of a work, stealing money they need to continue doing their work. It's not a celebration or a tribute, it's a betrayal and an assault. Nobody finds it encouraging to be mugged.

I think you misunderstood my point. I don't like that it's pirated; I think it's terrible. But my point was entirely separate. I want this Netflix show to be successful and I'd love to figure out if it is. However, since Netflix's ratings are hidden behind a veil of secrecy, you have to figure them out in other ways. Piracy numbers are a good indicator, since it's a safe assumption that popularity of illegal downloads roughly correlate with popularity of a program, which means it roughly correlates with legal viewership numbers.

I'm not saying Netflix should find those numbers encouraging. Netflix wants to capture 100% of the revenue from viewership and this obviously doesn't do it. Then again, Netflix also knows what their viewership numbers are and doesn't need to infer it indirectly. But that's an entirely separate issue. My only question was whether Daredevil will be getting a season two. The most popularly pirated show is Game of Thrones. That's gotten more than one season. That was the extent of my comments and more shouldn't be read into them.
 
If it wasn't for piracy Robert Downy Jr could be paid more than the mere $40 million he is reportedly getting for Captain America 3.
 
^Like I said, there are a lot of us who don't make anywhere near 40 million and are seriously threatened by piracy.
 
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