Marvel/Netflix Daredevil Season 1
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It varies for me. Generally I use the '90s cast for the X-Men, but I wrote my X-Men novel with Patrick Stewart's voice in mind for Xavier. And sometimes the later X-Men cartoons have better voices for certain characters -- such as Liam O'Brien's Nightcrawler and Phil LaMarr's Gambit in Wolverine and the X-Men. And sometimes these days I prefer Tom Kenny's creepy and soft-spoken Doc Ock from Ultimate Spider-Man to Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.'s bombastic German-accented version from the '90s show, since it better fits how the character tends to be written these days in the comics.
But Roscoe Lee Browne is the Kingpin for me, period. It doesn't matter if he's written differently than in the cartoon, since Browne was a very versatile actor. And there haven't been that many other Kingpins onscreen, have there? He had a couple of one-time appearances in the early Spidey cartoons, played by Tom Harvey and Walker Edmiston respectively. In the '82 cartoon, he was played by Stan Jones, aka Superfriends' Lex Luthor, which is definitely typecasting. There was John Rhys-Davies in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk, though he had hair and was never called Kingpin. Then there's Michael Clarke Duncan, in both the DD movie and the 2000 CGI Spidey cartoon. And now there's D'Onofrio. Really not that many to choose from. And Browne played the role longer and more extensively than any of the others to date.
Apparently there have been a lot of Kingpins in video games, though: David Sobolov (currently playing Drax in Marvel cartoons), Stephen Stanton (currently Grand Moff Tarkin on Rebels), Bob Joles, Gregg Berger (Mysterio/Kraven from the '90s Spidey), Travis Willingham (the current animated Thor), Jim Cummings, John DiMaggio, JB Blanc (recently Alfred on Beware the Batman).
But Roscoe Lee Browne is the Kingpin for me, period. It doesn't matter if he's written differently than in the cartoon, since Browne was a very versatile actor. And there haven't been that many other Kingpins onscreen, have there? He had a couple of one-time appearances in the early Spidey cartoons, played by Tom Harvey and Walker Edmiston respectively. In the '82 cartoon, he was played by Stan Jones, aka Superfriends' Lex Luthor, which is definitely typecasting. There was John Rhys-Davies in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk, though he had hair and was never called Kingpin. Then there's Michael Clarke Duncan, in both the DD movie and the 2000 CGI Spidey cartoon. And now there's D'Onofrio. Really not that many to choose from. And Browne played the role longer and more extensively than any of the others to date.
Apparently there have been a lot of Kingpins in video games, though: David Sobolov (currently playing Drax in Marvel cartoons), Stephen Stanton (currently Grand Moff Tarkin on Rebels), Bob Joles, Gregg Berger (Mysterio/Kraven from the '90s Spidey), Travis Willingham (the current animated Thor), Jim Cummings, John DiMaggio, JB Blanc (recently Alfred on Beware the Batman).
If I remember right all of Daredevil's scenes in both the theater movie and The Trial Of The Hulk were at night. Possibly some of symbolism that he works in darkness, possibly to maintain some kind of continuity with his law practice during the day.
Foggy looks like he has didbs on Karen.
2 boys and a girl, oldest story in the world.
2 boys and a girl, oldest story in the world.
I'm pretty sure they've said that won't be his costume for the whole series. I haven't read it, but I've seen comments about how that costume is based one one he wore in The Man Without Fear.
I have to admit, I'm kind of surprised we haven't heard anything about Elektra yet. I wonder if they're saving her for a later season?
Six new characters have been announced for the series.
Rob Morgan as Turk Barret (comics' Mauler/Stilt-Man)
Matt Gerald as Melvin Potter (comics' Gladiator)
Peter Shindoka as Nobu
Wai Ching Ho as Madame Gao
Nikolae Nikolaeff and Gideon Emery as Vladimir and Anatoly
I have to admit, I'm kind of surprised we haven't heard anything about Elektra yet. I wonder if they're saving her for a later season?
Six new characters have been announced for the series.
Rob Morgan as Turk Barret (comics' Mauler/Stilt-Man)
Matt Gerald as Melvin Potter (comics' Gladiator)
Peter Shindoka as Nobu
Wai Ching Ho as Madame Gao
Nikolae Nikolaeff and Gideon Emery as Vladimir and Anatoly
I looked up Turk Barrett, and apparently he's neither Mauler nor Stilt-Man as a rule, but just a recurring incompetent DD adversary who stole both their armor on occasion. I guess it was too much to hope we might actually see a guy stomping around on giant robotic stilts on this show.
Interestingly, the character appeared in the previous TV Daredevil project, The Trial of the Incredible Hulk.
And let's see... Potter/Gladiator was an early DD foe who reformed and became a staunch supporter. The others appear to be new characters.
I see they've also got Bob Gunton as the Owl, and Vondie Curtis-Hall as Ben Urich.
And Kingpin's love interest/future wife Vanessa is played by the same actress (Ayelet Zurer) who played Lara in Man of Steel. Kingpin and Superman's mom???? That's... just... wrong.
Interestingly, the character appeared in the previous TV Daredevil project, The Trial of the Incredible Hulk.
And let's see... Potter/Gladiator was an early DD foe who reformed and became a staunch supporter. The others appear to be new characters.
I see they've also got Bob Gunton as the Owl, and Vondie Curtis-Hall as Ben Urich.
And Kingpin's love interest/future wife Vanessa is played by the same actress (Ayelet Zurer) who played Lara in Man of Steel. Kingpin and Superman's mom???? That's... just... wrong.
Turk was was the one who stapped Matt Murdock in the Born Again story, Matt's final injury before go to the church where his mother saved him.
^ Yeah, having someone say Turk is Mauler or Stilt-Man is weird to me. The Stilt-Man issue is fairly memorable, though. The Mauler one I have no memory of. Another character was the Mauler, which was an issue noteworthy because Roger McKenzie got booted from the series and somebody had to fill in (the previous issue said "Next Issue, the Punisher) and then we end up with the Mauler. Ironically, the actual planned issue with Punisher ended up being blocked by the comics code, which ultimately led to Frank Miller replacing McKenzie. Later, Frank Miller ended up adapting the same story idea anyway and got Marvel to fight for it. It ended up being one of his best.
Anyway, glad Turk is in, thrilled Gladiator/Melvin Potter is in (that's one character I was pushing hard to have).
We actually have heard. It's been confirmed she won't be in this season. Bullseye won't be there either.
Anyway, glad Turk is in, thrilled Gladiator/Melvin Potter is in (that's one character I was pushing hard to have).
We actually have heard. It's been confirmed she won't be in this season. Bullseye won't be there either.
Maybe avoiding Elektra and Bullseye, like avoiding the red costume, is about minimizing comparisons to the movie. They want to establish themselves as their own entity before they bring those elements in.
I actually think the director's cut of the DD movie isn't bad at all. It's imperfect, but it's enormously better than the theatrical cut and is a pretty decent superhero movie. I even kind of like Elektra, which is silly but impressively stylish, and handles the action and VFX sequences considerably better than the Daredevil movie.
I actually think the director's cut of the DD movie isn't bad at all. It's imperfect, but it's enormously better than the theatrical cut and is a pretty decent superhero movie. I even kind of like Elektra, which is silly but impressively stylish, and handles the action and VFX sequences considerably better than the Daredevil movie.
A new detail-rich motion poster. Avengers Tower can be seen in the background, and is that the first hint of DD's final costume in the reflection?
Could be. Really tough to tell.
I've watched that video about seven times. There's really a lot of cool details in the background.
I've watched that video about seven times. There's really a lot of cool details in the background.
Hard for me to tell. Lately something weird is going on with YouTube videos on my computer -- they lose resolution maybe 15 seconds in and take a while to build back up to high resolution. Which is problematical for a 30-second trailer. I don't know what's causing it, or why it's only YouTube.
Can't wait for this.
And it would be awesome if there's a place for Daredevil in Cap: Civil War, if only a little cameo.
Seen as how in-universe, what's really gonna be the difference between him and Spider-Man? In that they're both active at the time of the movie, and both run around the streets of New York fighting crime as vigilantes known to the public. Obviously Spider-Man is a bigger name in real life, but in-universe will it really make sense to (presumably) make a big deal of Spider-Man and have no mention of Daredevil?
I'm not a super-duper expert on the comics reality, but its fairly obvious that everyone in New York knows about Spider-Man... is Daredevil also well known to the general public? I know in the movie he was kinda reported as a semi-myth
And it would be awesome if there's a place for Daredevil in Cap: Civil War, if only a little cameo.
Seen as how in-universe, what's really gonna be the difference between him and Spider-Man? In that they're both active at the time of the movie, and both run around the streets of New York fighting crime as vigilantes known to the public. Obviously Spider-Man is a bigger name in real life, but in-universe will it really make sense to (presumably) make a big deal of Spider-Man and have no mention of Daredevil?
I'm not a super-duper expert on the comics reality, but its fairly obvious that everyone in New York knows about Spider-Man... is Daredevil also well known to the general public? I know in the movie he was kinda reported as a semi-myth
Daredevil in Civil War would be interesting since Matt Murdock was not in the comic Civil War.
Daredevil's known, he just never made the same impact as Spider-Man. At least until recently. I think the revelation of his secret identity and the actions he took in response made him a more known figure. The difference between the characters is Daredevil's just a guy fighting crime, Spider-Man has spider powers.
Daredevil's known, he just never made the same impact as Spider-Man. At least until recently. I think the revelation of his secret identity and the actions he took in response made him a more known figure. The difference between the characters is Daredevil's just a guy fighting crime, Spider-Man has spider powers.
Daredevil breaks bones, and kicks teeth out of people's faces.
Spider-Man glues criminals to lampposts.
It's EMBARRASSING to be beat up by Spider-Man because he isn't even trying.
Doctor Octopus proved that definitively during the year that he was Spider-Man.
"Sigh"
Spider-Man glues criminals to lampposts.
It's EMBARRASSING to be beat up by Spider-Man because he isn't even trying.
Doctor Octopus proved that definitively during the year that he was Spider-Man.
"Sigh"
Daredevil also can't stick to walls, which makes his stunts (which are much smaller) seem more impressive. Particularly if you know he's blind.
His radar sense is a thousand times more useful than regular eyesight when doing what he does.
I heard it described once that Spider-Man is Daffy Duck, and Daredevil is Bugs Bunny.
I heard it described once that Spider-Man is Daffy Duck, and Daredevil is Bugs Bunny.
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