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Marvel/Netflix Daredevil Season 1
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Not sure if you're getting your dates mixed up, but first issue of Kickass came out in 2008. The first Scott Pilgrim volume was in 2004
Of course I'm getting my dates mixed up. 
The choices were actually.
1. Register.
2. Go to prison.
3. Give up being a super hero.
Firestar opted for #3 and immersed herself in her studies at college, after which no one bothered or hunted her (although I'm guessing that someone would have followed her for the rest of her life to make sure that she wasn't cheating on her vow.). Option three seems a little wavery to me. Didn't they want to register everyone with powers and not just everyone in a cape trying to save the day? And should electing to give up superheroing be that grounded an option after Tony figured out SPIN technology and could "stop" anyone he felt like from having powers. Which is the difference between Abstinence and castration.
Or you could do what Ben Grimm did.
Go to France.
#### you USA!
(The US Government emptied his bank account in retaliation that had a hundred billion dollars in it.)
Oh.
Maybe Ben is waiting?
What happens if when he sues for the return of all that cash after the government has spent it on something stupid like tax breaks for the %1, and they can't afford to live up to their debt to the Thing?
Ben Grim, King of Wyoming.
(Never going to happen.)
Although, the Fantastic Four's Loyalty to the American Government has to be running on empty after the Government took Franklin (Did they get Valeria? She'd been living in Latveria and might have missed that.) and the rest of the Future Foundation into Foster Care. If Susan was smart and wanted her kids back, she should have raized Congress and flung the white house into orbit. Don't kill a million soldiers when you can win a war by getting one general into a titty twister until he surrenders.
So everyone in the 42 prison, they could agree to leave US territories, or agree to stop using their powers in public/fightcrime/save civilians from natural disasters like volcanoes, or they could volunteer to have their powers removed with spin or another less invasive method.
Registration meant conscription into S.H.I.E.L.D. and placement into the 50 state initiative. They told you were to live and paid you handsomely to follow orders but punished you if you didn't, no different from being in the army other than instead of a cot, you got to live in a mansion with a full cable package until you were told that it was time to save the day.
The choices were actually.
1. Register.
2. Go to prison.
3. Give up being a super hero.
Firestar opted for #3 and immersed herself in her studies at college, after which no one bothered or hunted her (although I'm guessing that someone would have followed her for the rest of her life to make sure that she wasn't cheating on her vow.). Option three seems a little wavery to me. Didn't they want to register everyone with powers and not just everyone in a cape trying to save the day? And should electing to give up superheroing be that grounded an option after Tony figured out SPIN technology and could "stop" anyone he felt like from having powers. Which is the difference between Abstinence and castration.
Or you could do what Ben Grimm did.
Go to France.
#### you USA!
(The US Government emptied his bank account in retaliation that had a hundred billion dollars in it.)
Oh.
Maybe Ben is waiting?
What happens if when he sues for the return of all that cash after the government has spent it on something stupid like tax breaks for the %1, and they can't afford to live up to their debt to the Thing?
Ben Grim, King of Wyoming.
(Never going to happen.)
Although, the Fantastic Four's Loyalty to the American Government has to be running on empty after the Government took Franklin (Did they get Valeria? She'd been living in Latveria and might have missed that.) and the rest of the Future Foundation into Foster Care. If Susan was smart and wanted her kids back, she should have raized Congress and flung the white house into orbit. Don't kill a million soldiers when you can win a war by getting one general into a titty twister until he surrenders.
So everyone in the 42 prison, they could agree to leave US territories, or agree to stop using their powers in public/fightcrime/save civilians from natural disasters like volcanoes, or they could volunteer to have their powers removed with spin or another less invasive method.
Registration meant conscription into S.H.I.E.L.D. and placement into the 50 state initiative. They told you were to live and paid you handsomely to follow orders but punished you if you didn't, no different from being in the army other than instead of a cot, you got to live in a mansion with a full cable package until you were told that it was time to save the day.
New TV spots...
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[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQtqxJik1Nk[/yt]
They're already pushing the "Defenders" angle, but as they already used "First Avenger" with Cap, they should of come up with something different for DD than "First Defender".
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSnGsn4BVS0[/yt]
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQtqxJik1Nk[/yt]
They're already pushing the "Defenders" angle, but as they already used "First Avenger" with Cap, they should of come up with something different for DD than "First Defender".
ComicsAlliance has a positive review of the first five episodes:
http://comicsalliance.com/netflix-daredevil-review/
http://comicsalliance.com/netflix-daredevil-review/
Public Defender?
For those wondering about why the Hell's Kitchen in the MCU of 2015 is so different from the Hell's Kitchen of our own world in 2015, there is an in-universe answer...
Random question-- How far is the "Hell's Kitchen" neighborhood from Avengers Tower (Real world location of Met Life bldg)?
Basically, the Chitauri did it. It's the answer that makes the most sense, and it ties the story into the larger MCU. The damage wrought in the Battle of New York destroyed the neighborhood enough to drive the money out and draw the crime back in.
Random question-- How far is the "Hell's Kitchen" neighborhood from Avengers Tower (Real world location of Met Life bldg)?
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Hell's Kitchen is 34th St to 58th St and goes from the water to 8th Ave. Metlife Building is 45th and Vanderbilt. So that's something like five blocks east.
For the benefit of anyone who's been to New York Comic Con, Hell's Kitchen -- aka Clinton or Midtown West -- is basically the neighborhood right next to the Javits Center. The Center's pretty much in the southwest corner of it. So most people who've gone to the convention have probably walked through the neighborhood at some point, certainly if they were headed from the Javits to the Times Square Midtown Comics or somewhere like that.
And I'm pleased to see that spoiler Turtletrekker posted, because I've been saying all along that that was how the show should explain its version of Hell's Kitchen.
And I'm pleased to see that spoiler Turtletrekker posted, because I've been saying all along that that was how the show should explain its version of Hell's Kitchen.
Imagine Bono performing a relief concert standing on the corpse of one of those Chitauri frigates?
Thanks. The reason I asked...
...is Cap's line to Iron Man in Avengers, "Anything gets more than three blocks out, you turn it back or you turn it to ash."
Looks like he opted for "ash".
If Hell's Kitchen/Clinton were all the way across town I would say that IM did a pretty shoddy job at containing the fight, but a couple blocks is understandable, especially if the damage were due to a crashing Leviathan after Tony abandoned the containment action to go after the missile.
Looks like he opted for "ash".
If Hell's Kitchen/Clinton were all the way across town I would say that IM did a pretty shoddy job at containing the fight, but a couple blocks is understandable, especially if the damage were due to a crashing Leviathan after Tony abandoned the containment action to go after the missile.
I get the impression it's not just that Hell's Kitchen was physically damaged, but that all of New York City was economically devastated by the aftermath of the battle, and that's allowed organized crime to regain control of much of the city.
That makes sense to me. Gives each of the Defenders a "territory" of sorts to, well, defend.
Jessica showed up spent and retired at the beginning of this century, "claiming" that she'd been a Dazzler level Super hero in the real world 1980s, which to people inside comic books, marvel sliding time, is probably about 18 months ago.
We know very little about what Knightress or Jewel actually got up to as Superheroes.
We know very little about what Knightress or Jewel actually got up to as Superheroes.
Are there any rules about how we can discuss the actual episodes without assuming we are all going to marathon the season on the first day? I will probably watch it over a week or so.
Well, we could do a separate thread for each episode, though that seems like it could be cumbersome, and inconvenient for those who want to discuss the series as a whole entity.
We could ask posters to begin each post by listing the episodes they're going to discuss, but then someone scrolling down to the next post might still happen to see a spoiler.
We could ask posters to begin each post by listing the episodes they're going to discuss, but then someone scrolling down to the next post might still happen to see a spoiler.
Every other Netflix series has been limited to a single thread. I'd suggest a courtesy couple of weeks where things are in spoiler tags, but, frankly, it does need to be enter at your own risk.
Maybe two threads, one for spoilers, one spoiler free? I think, unless we add a comics subforum, a thread for every episode is impractical.
Maybe two threads, one for spoilers, one spoiler free? I think, unless we add a comics subforum, a thread for every episode is impractical.
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