Does it actually matter?No.
The MCU Fandom Wiki considers it to be Canonical, but Marvel Studios does not, and they (Marvel Studios) are the "final word" on the subject.
Does it actually matter?No.
The MCU Fandom Wiki considers it to be Canonical, but Marvel Studios does not, and they (Marvel Studios) are the "final word" on the subject.
Does it actually matter?
Of course, we have James D'arcy appearing in both Endgame and VisionQuest but that doesn't fit in with certain people's tunnel vision.
Joe Russo says it's "required" viewing.There is no way I'd be willing to pay full price to see a movie I've already seen multiple just for 4 minutes of new footage. Hell even if it was an hour I'd have trouble justifying it when there are so many movies coming out I haven't seen at all, but there is absolutely now way I'm doing it for only 4 minutes.
In the context of this thread at the moment and the question that was asked, Yes, it matters.
Nah.Content doesn't determine Canonicity.
James D'Arcy's appearences in Endgame and VisionQuest notwithstanding Marvel Studios has excluded Agent Carter from the MCU Canon as currently constituted.
Exactly this. And, at this point, Kevin Feige has pretty objectively and definitively demonstrated that in his vision of things, it's all "MCU" -- 616, 828, 838,10005, 96283, 120703, the "What If..?" timelines-- all of it. That the Marvel Cinematic Universe is a "universe" in the storytelling sense, not in the literal sense.Nah.
Here's the thing.
99% of all viewers, from casual viewers to hardcore fans, do not care about canon. It's only a small subset of people who obsess over it. Or simply obsess about pointing out what is or what isn't canon.
That's the greatest lesson I got as a Trekkie. At the end of the day, it does not matter as long as you enjoyed that piece of entertainment.
even if I were to concede that Agent Carter wasn't 616 proper, it's obviously still a part of the larger MCU
The MCU is a multiverse. We've had a television and several movies built upon the premise that the MCU contains multitudes. Is it truly your position that Agent Carter exists nowhere in that multiverse?It isn't, though.
Brad Winderbaum's public comments on the topic made that clear.
It isn't, though.
Brad Winderbaum's public comments on the topic made that clear.
Yes, that will be his argument.The MCU is a multiverse. We've had a television and several movies built upon the premise that the MCU contains multitudes. Is it truly your position that Agent Carter exists nowhere in that multiverse?
It isn't, though.
Brad Winderbaum's public comments on the topic made that clear.


It isn't, though.
Brad Winderbaum's public comments on the topic made that clear.
Thank you for proving my point.The following are, officially, the only Multiverse-related projects that exist within the MCU:
1. Loki
2. What If?
3. Spider-Man: No Way Home
4. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
5. Deadpool and Wolverine
6. Marvel Zombies
The more than 20 non-MCU projects that have been referenced by official MCU projects like No Way Home and Deadpool and Wolverine do not officially exist within the MCU, but stand alongside it separately.
and they (Marvel Studios) are the "final word" on the subject.
Nothing in the MCU is "required viewing", no matter what anyone says.
No.
The MCU Fandom Wiki considers it to be Canonical, but Marvel Studios does not, and they (Marvel Studios) are the "final word" on the subject.
Yeah, that was my first time I saw her something, and then she was in the Hawkeye comics where she fought Kate Bishop in LA. And I think I've seen her in one or two other things fighting other characters.
No.
The MCU Fandom Wiki considers it to be Canonical, but Marvel Studios does not, and they (Marvel Studios) are the "final word" on the subject.
If that was about my question, no it really doesn't matter, I was only talking about where Madame Masque has appeared, with no mention whatsoever of canon. And I couldn't care less about canon.In the context of this thread at the moment and the question that was asked, Yes, it matters.
Of course, we have James D'arcy appearing in both Endgame and VisionQuest but that doesn't fit in with certain people's tunnel vision.
To be fair to him, I checked the preview for the Official Timeline book on Amazon, and it includes the Agent Carter short, but not the series. But at the same time, I believe it is included in the MCU chronological order listing on Disney+'s Marvel page, so that and the continued us of James D'Arcy as Jarvis would makes it a little ambiguous.Content doesn't determine Canonicity.
James D'Arcy's appearences in Endgame and VisionQuest notwithstanding Marvel Studios has excluded Agent Carter from the MCU Canon as currently constituted.
The official timeline doesn't really line up very well with a lot of what's been established in the MCU, so even though it's "official," seeing as it's frequently incorrect, I've elected to ignore it.To be fair to him, I checked the preview for the Official Timeline book on Amazon, and it includes the Agent Carter short, but not the series. But at the same time, I believe it is included in the MCU chronological order listing on Disney+'s Marvel page, so that and the continued us of James D'Arcy as Jarvis would makes it a little ambiguous.
Feige, Markus and Mcfeely were executive producers for the entire run of the showThe official timeline doesn't really line up very well with a lot of what's been established in the MCU, so even though it's "official," seeing as it's frequently incorrect, I've elected to ignore it.
I don't think there's any real way to reconcile Agent Carter the show and Agent Carter the One-Shot, so I'll take the show. At least the first season, which featured the direct involvement of Kevin Feige, Joe Russo (who directed one episode), and Christopher Markus & Steven McFeely, who helped develop the series and wrote the pilot.
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