The Trickshot character was a retcon that came many years after the Swordsman story.
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Looks like one from the Eighties
Barney is from 1969 but didn't take the Trickshot name until 2011.
That could be a theme. Hawkeye dealing with the man who trained him and the lady who has trained to replace him. Which I think would be a good way to start the show. He is seriously training her. He has been wanting to retire for years now realizes it was a mistake to not have someone replace him. Buck has gotten himself into trouble and now the 3 of them have to solve the problem.
What do we know of Clint's pre SHIELD life? Fury find him at the circus?
From a comic point of view, I'd say Green Arrow. From media like tv/movies, I'd say Hawkeye.
Not sure but of course whatever they do doesn't have perfectly line up with the comics. I kind of like the idea of him being just a regular Solider who is singled out by his older brother for special training and who works with Peggy Carter who I think would still be in charge at that time. His older brother could be Kevin Costner as Trickshot.
Part of it probably is that the long-running Green Arrow TV show wasn't actually called Green Arrow.
I would’ve said that GA was more famous right up until the moment that Hawkeye appeared in, you know, some of the biggest box office hits of all time.
But at least it had half his name in there, unlike The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, and Man of Steel. For a while there, WB was rather embarrassed about admitting that it was making superhero stories.
I do think Hawkeye might be more popular now but people did like Arrow on CW. They also got to know the character on "Smallville" before that so they might actually be equal now in terms of fame. I think the old green looking Robin Hood outfit might be the most Iconic though in terms of uniform looks and how character looks of course is a big deal with comic book characters.
so much purple
You're right. Makes you wonder if people are aware of Batman and Superman.
Depends on the people. Knowledge doesn't always pass from generation to generation. When Smallville was on the air, in its early seasons, there were fans of the show who had no idea that it was connected to Superman in any way, because they weren't familiar enough with Superman to recognize the names "Clark Kent" and "Lex Luthor." Which shouldn't be surprising, because the entire point of Smallville was to make a Superboy show for people who weren't fans of comics At the time the show started, superheroes were still considered a disreputable genre, so the goal was to sanitize it of all the embarrassing comic-booky elements and make it palatable for an audience that liked Dawson's Creek but wouldn't be caught dead reading comics. Although the show's run coincided with the big success of superhero movies like X-Men and Spider-Man and the growing respectability of the genre, so it was able to work in more comics elements as it went and by the end was a full-fledged Superman show in all but name and costume.
Of course, the Arrowverse had a similar arc. It started out with a show designed to be as grounded and non-comic-booky as possible so as not to scare off general audiences or network suits, and once it got the audience invested, it gradually eased in superpowers and other fantasy concepts, then piled them on more and more until eventually it unapologetically embraced full-on comic-book craziness. Ditto for Agents of SHIELD, which started out designed to feel like a standard ABC procedural about federal agents dealing with weird crimes, then built up the comics/SF/fantasy elements more and more as it went. And before that, the DC Animated Universe started with the relatively grounded Batman: TAS and then went all-out with the fantasy/sci-fi elements in Superman, Batman Beyond, Justice League, etc. The general public usually needs to be eased into these things.
That's hard to believe. I mean how did they not know about Superman from the Christopher Reeve movies? I understand not understand the comics but it seems like for awhile at least most people must have at least been familiar with Superman and of course Batman. Also their was "Lois and Clark" the tv show.
I've been a big superhero fan my whole life and I never saw any of the Reeve movies in full until last year.
Not everyone goes back to watch every film that used to be massively popular before their time.
I’ve never seen Gone With The Wind but I know who the main characters are and the iconic lines. I was aware of much of Casablanca before I saw it. I am admittedly something of a geek but I would hazard a guess that many people who never actually saw the Reeve films still know of Superman, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, etc. because the character and the iconography of the film have been so prevalent over the last 40+ years.
You put the dime in the jukebox, now you got to listen to the song.
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